Plz help me to choose GPU and CPU........
Written by: Aurora - 06:19 Mar-03-2014

Guys, i'm planning to buy a new rig within may.....for that, plz tell me, which is the cheapest gpu that can run all games on max setting on 1920*1080 resolution for at least 1 more year..

second ques, can FX 8320 run all games on max for next 2 years????

 

Thanks in advanced........... :)

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18:01 Mar-05-2014

The CPU is a very good choice, but you'll really need to give us the budget for what you want to buy (and is it a full rig or just mobo+cpu+gpu, you know, that sorta stuff).

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08:38 Mar-06-2014

yeah bro.....when i will buy, i will surely take your opinion......... :-)

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02:40 Mar-05-2014

what is your budget and the requirement for max setting in 1080p for at least 1 year is quite demanding. not many gpu can do it except the high end ones. best setting around very high and that should get you to 7950,7970,gtx760,r9 280x,

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03:38 Mar-05-2014

yeah bro.....i think my budget will be about 700-800 euro.....so there's a chance for me get the r9 70x.......:-)

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22:41 Mar-03-2014

Remember, in the end you are going to be the one having to splash the cash and use the rig day-to-day. If you can stretch your budget, get the 280X and 8320 as this will definitively give you much more future-proofing. Or do what I did this week. Sell your old GPU for more than you bought it for ;) then use this extra-money and get a beast of a GPU :)

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08:02 Mar-04-2014

yeah bro i can understand....but on my country i will get about 90 euros for my whole pc.......that's the main fact....if i could get more, i would invest that for gpu.......ok, thanks for helping...... :-)

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22:18 Mar-03-2014

Get FX-8320 + decent cooler(Hyper 212) and the best GPU your budget allows. you'll not regret on spending more on GPU. its a good investment if you game a lot.

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07:59 Mar-04-2014

yeah i think that will be good....i will definitely invest most for the gpu..... :-)

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08:27 Mar-04-2014

you don't need the hyper 212 if you won't overclock amd fx cpus are really cool :)

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13:58 Mar-04-2014

depends on the case, keep in mind that most amd cpus, including FX series start throttling at 60-65 degrees celsius so... less performance if you hit that temperature :P

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20:12 Mar-04-2014

well I don't go over 45C on full load with the stock tin can, and I don't go over 35-40C in games and I have probably the worst posible case for air flow, I have only 1 fan on the back of my case and that's it....

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03:41 Mar-05-2014

yeah, i will buy a full tower casing....coz i have always wantes that.....so, i will of course think about cooling system...... :-)

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16:03 Mar-03-2014

ok guys, i have read all your comments....i think i will go for r9 270x or if possible r9 280x...and not sure about processor because in my country, the price difference between fx 6300 and fx 8320 is only about 20 euros.....anyway, i will keep in mind....thanks to all for your help....................................... :-)

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16:39 Mar-03-2014

i know u will choose R9 270X.....FX 6300 and FX 8320 difference is 20 euro as per ur info that means 2137.26 Taka...so go For R9 270X and FX 8320 :) it will be good budget high end upgrade...although budget matters....investing extra 187.15 eur(19994.88 Taka) only for 4 or 5 FPS not a good decision...theoretical info says R9 280X is 23% better than R9 270X but practical benchmark says its only 3 or 4 FPS difference on Demanding game benchmark on 1080p res :)

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18:34 Mar-03-2014

I don't agree, because you'll get 0 performance over the fx 6300 with a fx 8320, but you'll get more performance with a r9 280x than a r9 270x, so if these 20 euro can buy you a r9 280x it's better to get it and a fx 6300 rather than a r9 270x and fx 8320.

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19:17 Mar-03-2014

that is true :)
but with few more € one can get both FX-8320 and R9 280X :D

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21:09 Mar-03-2014

depends on where you live bro :)

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07:57 Mar-04-2014

yup, if i want to buy r9 280x, then i'll have to add more 100 euros.....if i can collect the money, i will of course go for 280x............. :-)

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09:50 Mar-03-2014

I'd say fx 6300 and r9 270x for the best performance/dollar gaming rig.The r9 270x can run all games 1080p maxed out, of course not all of them with cosntant 60fps, but 45fps+ and the fx 6300 is great and it costs only 10-20$ more than the fx4300 so yeah it's perfect.
If you have more money though you can get a r9 280x or r9 280 none-X (when it comes out)

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09:55 Mar-03-2014

That's a perfect Answer :)

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10:03 Mar-03-2014

i agree with psychoman, i am against fx-8320, it hasan't got better single threaded performance than fx6300 and most of the games nowadays are not using more than 2-4 cores... for games, fx8000 series is a joke if you ask me

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10:07 Mar-03-2014

glad I could help, but let's see what Aurora thinks :)

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10:59 Mar-03-2014

definitely would offer best performance for the price :Đ
but I cannot agree such rig would handle all games at 1080p maxxed with good fps, 8320+280X is really the combo to pick, especially for future-proof rig :)

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11:02 Mar-03-2014

games don't need more than 2-4 cores, so fx 6300 vs fx 8320, the fx 8320 doesn't give any performance boost, it's just more expenisve.

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11:04 Mar-03-2014

Except for Watch Dogs, I agree. With that title Ubisoft basically told us "f*ck what you know about games".

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11:06 Mar-03-2014

if you unpark cores, tweak cpu management, then my 8 threads are being used, so I see no point (except budget limit ofc) not going for FX-8000 series or Intel i7 series :)

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11:12 Mar-03-2014

I have my cores unparked, and I have turned on HPC and turned of Cool and Quiet in my bios and my cpu doesn't go over 60% usage in any game that I've tested, bf4, bf3, far cry 3 and blood dragon,lord of the ring witn, etc, etc and in cpu limited games like arma 2, 3 and strategies and RPGs like skyrim,SCII my cpu doesn't go over 20% usage....And yes I still get great fps :)

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11:39 Mar-03-2014

i agree here both @tzzsmk@ and @phycho@ :/

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11:45 Mar-03-2014

:D

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14:16 Mar-03-2014

psychoman ...cpu doesn't have to go 100% use, the usage is indication of cpu being slow enough to take some time to process things (so theoretically extremely beasty cpu would have 1% use because it would do things immediately)
it's more important how balanced each core usage is - if one core would run 100% then it's a problem and in most cases indication of crashed exe process

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15:05 Mar-03-2014

what about cases when cpu usage is 50%(40-60% each core on a quad core), gpu usage is 50% yet fps is under 40? i tought that happens when a game cannot make use of more than 2 cores, in such situations i've tried switching affinity to 2 cores and i got exactly the same fps

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15:09 Mar-03-2014

in those cases it's game engine handicap,
for ex. when I wanna play Empire Earth II with 2000 units on screen, it lags no matter what settings and what rig I tested it on :)

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15:14 Mar-03-2014

dunno what to say in that case... these kind of situations persist in almost all games, that includes crysis 2, battlefield 3 and so on, frostbite 2 and cryengine 3 are fairly well optimised in my oppinion, you might have not noticed such situations because you have a beastly single threaded performance

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15:18 Mar-03-2014

hmm weird, could you check in GPU-Z for the peaking values? maybe your card is bottlenecking itself in specific tasks (such as shadows, AA or AF) so might be not able to be used more...

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15:23 Mar-03-2014

in battlefield 3 the gpu usage is around 70% and i'm sure it never went higher than 95%, when i have drops to 45 fps the gpu usage is usually 60-80% usage and cpu usage 70-85%, battlefield doesn't go higher than 75% (processes tab) which sounds like 3 cores to me, the overall usage is above 75% sometimes because of punkbuster which ranges from 1 to 10% usage

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15:24 Mar-03-2014

ehm, so are you talking about cpu or gpu ?

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15:27 Mar-03-2014

about both, yeah i've missed your question, i've never seen video engine and memory controler reach high usage, nor the memory
Edit: I could try to record the cpu usage in task manager and sensor tab in gpu-z and upload them on youtube, maybe you know why i have such results

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15:35 Mar-03-2014

i will record with my phone to avoid fraps messing up with the results, i will put a link in 20 min

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15:57 Mar-03-2014

my bad, it looks like it reached even 93-94% usage, but it doesn't look like a gpu bottleneck to me, there are other games that strain my gpu the same and cpu usage is even lower https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwVqbBPqXGY i still have low fps with cpu usage lower than 90%, gpu aswell

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15:49 Mar-03-2014

dude, i just bought the rig from my account, it has one month today, it's just awesome. So far i played: Castlevania LoS 2 on max on 1080, crysis 3 on high on 1080 with 30-50 FPS, tomb raider on ultra with 70 FPS, Saints Row 4 on max( don't know the FPS though) Bioshock Infinite on max with 60-80 FPS, Naruto on PC with max settings. If you chose a rig like mine it will be cheap and good

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16:42 Mar-03-2014

good suggestion....i was trying to Cmnt same but some guys here don't understand my logic :)

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15:59 Mar-03-2014

ok bro, i will keep in mind..... thanks.... :)

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09:35 Mar-03-2014

to prevent any further confusions, R9 280X is the card you should consider, as you said .."cheapest gpu that can run all games on max setting on 1920*1080 resolution for at least 1 more year.." I took Crysis 3 (released year ago) as base, and see benchmark results of this game here, and smiriti you should look at that too to stop blabbering about R9 270X ;))

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09:51 Mar-03-2014

R9 280X is giving 38.1 FPS and R9 270X is giving 34.7 FPS.so the difference is 3.4 FPS. my gaming experience says this 3 or 4 Frame will not noticeable while u r practically gaming without running FRAPS :) R9 270X sapphire Dual-X is 22,000 taka means 283.433 US Dollar in Bangladesh..just saw ur benchmark the difference is 3.4 FPS so a guys who wants Cheap best GPU will not go for extra 257.666 US Dollar just for 3.4 extra FPS performance....:) :)

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10:06 Mar-03-2014

yes, but you should look at it from a percentage point of view.

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10:29 Mar-03-2014

Alright, 280x vs. 270x. 384-bit vs. 256-bit. 3GB vs. 2GB. 2048 shaders vs. 1280 shaders, with the actual performance of the 280x being much higher. The 280x has almost double the bandwidth of the 270x. Couple that with the wider bus and more Vram and you get a GPU that is much more powerful and future-proof. The 270x might be getting almost the same results as the 280x at 1080p, but let's see how it fares in a year or two when 4K resolutions start taking up a bigger portion of the market and users start upgrading to 1440p or 1600p. I can guarantee that it won't give satisfying performance.
Besides, the 280x is based on Tahiti, while the 270x is just an overclocked Curacao or whatever it was called, so why are we even having this argument? :D

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10:36 Mar-03-2014

problem solve then... R9 280X all features r better than R9 270X...it does not even comes to compare with R9 270X...But the result is only 3 or 4 extra FPS for R9 280X...so why should he invest money for this lil performance which cant be noticeable ? its not worthy to invest extra 257.666 US Dollar just for extra 3 or 4 FPS :) may be 257.666 Dollar is just like 1 $ for some guys and those guys started thumbs down us really funny...noticing these days on GD :D

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10:55 Mar-03-2014

Nooo brother, you still missed the point :D The two cards have similar performance at 1080p, but in the near future when we have higher resolution monitors the 280x will really make a difference. That's why I think it's a worthwhile investment.
And are you really getting thumbs down? I haven't had that problem...

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11:29 Mar-03-2014

@aunt@ u and @tsssmk@ talking with me.arguing with me...thats really a good thing we r spending a very good time here but some guys not even giving their point or something else just thumbing down cmnt...am noticing these days is several pages me and @phyco@'s cmnt was thumbs down,,...but its funny :)

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10:01 Mar-03-2014

@tzzsmk@ am not blabbering am telling the fact with practical calculation at least am living in real world not dreaming. stop fighting with we me we r buddies :)

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10:55 Mar-03-2014

I'm not fighting with ya pal, just following facts, just look at GD comparison, 23% is worthy difference :)

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11:25 Mar-03-2014

:) @tzzsmk@ thanks :) but practical result(ur previous info) showing difference is more or less same on 1080p res but now theoretical says now its reall 23% worthy difference :/ lovely thing is my lovely two @admin@ buddies trying me to understand thanks @tzzsmk@ and @aunt@ :)

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09:21 Mar-03-2014

I'd go for a Core i5-4670K or, if you have more money, a Core i7-4770K paired with an R9 280X (Specifically the Sapphire Tri-X "Toxic" Editon of the R9 280X) :D

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09:31 Mar-03-2014

he asked for a "cheap" best GPU and u r suggesting a GPU cost in Bangladesh 42,000 TAKA means 541.099 US Dollar there ? 541 Doller is cheap for u may be but not for everyone : ) this guy lives in Bangladesh.you r going for Toxic Edition i guess that does not mean everyone will go for the same GPU and can afford it try to help people by general thinking....no hard feeling bro :)

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07:42 Mar-03-2014

you'll need R9 280X, and FX-8320 is good enough for sure :Đ

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07:48 Mar-03-2014

R9 280X is not Cheap :) i notice many time when someone want cheap best card u suggest him R9 280X ? why ? may be R9 280X is cheap for u but not for everyone here :) he lives in Bangladesh R9 280X SAPPHIRE TOXIC EDITION is there 42,000 TAKA means 541.099 US Dollar there .

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07:51 Mar-03-2014

he was asking for "..the cheapest gpu that can run all games on max setting on 1920*1080 resolution for at least 1 more year.." so I answered his question, if you guys think R9 270X is enough (on par with HD7870) then I disagree :P

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07:56 Mar-03-2014

no i totally agree with u @tzzsmk@ that GPU can max everygame at least 1 year easily but R9 280X is not cheap :)

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09:14 Mar-03-2014

But it is in fact the cheapest GPU that is able to max out all games that are currently on the market. Maybe the R9 280 will also fit into that description, when it gets released.

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09:18 Mar-03-2014

ok guys, thanks....i think i will go for R9 280X or 270X.......i will decide after my exam......thanks a lot guys............... :)

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09:19 Mar-03-2014

there is a confusion because u did not said about ur budget :)

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07:37 Mar-03-2014

You should watch a channel called cultofmush, he makes updated videos about the best PCs for a specific budget that can run games @1080p

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09:15 Mar-03-2014

i will try.....thanks.....

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07:04 Mar-03-2014

go for R9 270X with FX 8320 for 1080p res next 2 years easily ! eyes close :)

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09:14 Mar-03-2014

i think i should go for it....okay,time will say......thanks.... :)

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