(Info) About how to treat people...
Written by: NeoGamerX - 21:54 May-05-2018

So something I have considered since I made that last blog post. I have talked to a few friends regarding my decision since that time and we have agreed on a few things.

People can be jerks and some only want nothing more to put certain others down either emotionally or physically. Regardless of the reason, this is just wrong.

Not to be taken too literally but if a person stabs you in the back, you don't go and stab them right back. That's just stepping down to their level and makes you no better than they are.

Instead be the better person.

As just one example of many: If a person refuses to forgive you, be the better person by being willing to forgive them anyway.

Better said than done though, because forgiving someone isn't always easy.

But whatever you do, Don't hate your enemies because it won't make you any better than they are. Love show them love instead and be willing to forgive no matter how much they hurt you.


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See the problem with being "the better person" is that in different cultures the standard is different.


For example in eastern Muslim cultures if your daughter gets raped, you do NOT go after the man who raped her, you kill your daughter, otherwise you are seen as ashamed and a bad person, but killing your daughter makes you redeem yourself and be a great person… go figure the logic behind that, I'm sure they have some, but we are NOT to tell them what is right and wrong, because it's subjective and we shouldn't force our views on others.

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Then in the past some native American tribes believed in complete forgiveness, if someone kills your family for example, that someone could be entirely forgiven if he apologizes and says he is sorry…


bottom line is that Good and Bad are subjective and different from culture to culture, what is Good for one is Bad for others and what is Right for ones is Wrong for others… simple as that. And then we can go on a personal right and wrong and good and bad point of view, which means that people that do NOT conform no matter what will have different views… and that's why subjective man-made concepts suck…

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Well I think your views are no less man-made. :P

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Just a question tho, what do you believe in as far as morals are concerned? Surely you gotta believe in something.

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I do NOT do "belief" simple as that… belief and believing is the act accepting blindly that something is true without questioning it… And I question everything…


And I do NOT "believe" in, more accurately agree with rights and wrongs, dos and don'ts, but sadly I have to abide them, otherwise I get killed or worse go to jail… brutally efficient system based on brainwashing, social pressure and conformism, brilliant and yet absolutely screws me over.

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OK let me ask this a different way. Imagine you washed up on an island where there are no laws, by what standard would you base your actions upon should you encounter other people on the island that got there before you or washed up on the beach after you?

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the biological one -> do the easiest and most efficient thing there is to survive.


That's how biological organisms survive and that's how small minorities brainwashed the majorities into doing and believing what they say, establishing rules, morals, laws, social norms, standards, etc, etc.

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Personally I think I would just do what I have done before.

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And that is?

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Not saying I ever got washed up on an island. XD


But I think you already know. :)

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I know it's kindof a moot point because what should be and what IS are two completely different things, but culture and religion should NEVER dictate what's right and what's wrong…… reason, logic, and wisdom should….. and YES when we see something that is quite obviously wrong in a culture, or within a religion, we should NOT keep quiet about it.

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see the thing is that right and wrong come from religion and different believes that have installed fear of breaking their rights and wrongs as a secondary instinct in us and humanity as a whole. There is no objective right and wrong…

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Do NOT kill for example benefit the top of the hierarchy as they can abuse their power and NOT be killed for being corrupt, treating people like slaves and so on and on top of that it adds another protective layer, because people do NOT kill each other at the same time and go after each other so the monarch/dictator/politic at the top is extra safe by distracting them like that and can also ensure the growth of the population… just brutally well designed, but obvious, and yet people fell and still fall for it.

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The term here is neither subjective, or objective but absolute. Also it's actually "do not murder" which is not the same thing.


To kill is to cause the death of a living thing.


To murder is the unjustified taking a of a life.


Taking the life of a corrupt person can in no way be justified.

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Everything is relative, nothing is absolute.

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Also even a culture's views can be wrong because no matter where you go, humans are still humans and in time even cultures change as they see the error of their ways.


To educate people about the errors of their ways is not forcing views on them.

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Well if I say that murdering is right how can you prove me wrong?

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Because murder is an unjustified taking of a life.


As an example, killing somebody just because you don't like them, is unjustifiable.


Now if you shot and killed someone in self-defense, that is an entirely different matter.


Because murder is by definition unjustified it can not under any circumstances be right.

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Yes cultures may have different views but lets look at things are almost universal.


For example, Theft. Nearly every nation in the world has laws against theft, though the punishments for it vary. Can you still call that subjective?

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But I'm saying that killing someone for no good reason(unjustified) is perfectly fine and a show of great morality and excellent characteristics, prove me wrong.

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Yes I can, the reason theft is forbidden is to keep people at bay, if everybody stole from everybody it would be chaos of people trying to take back what was stolen from them. See the problem is that if these morals and rights and wrongs were true and real, we would NOT be doing them.

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OK let me put it this way. If people (and other things) couldn't die there would be no laws against murder because the concept of death wouldn't exist but since it does.


At the same time, If no one ever stole from anyone else, there would be no laws against theft because the concept of theft would not exist.

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And since we can do these things that means that rights and wrongs do NOT exist, because the definition of right and wrong are things you can and can NOT do, but you CAN do them. If you say they are a "should" and NOT a "can/can't", then they are subjective as "should" is just a suggestion and is subjective.

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My point is that you can't make a law against a concept or idea that doesn't exist.

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my point is that laws, rules, morals, standards, social norms, etc, etc are an imaginary concept… they are as real as the boogieman, Santa Claus, The easter bunny, the tooth fairy, batman, superman, spider man and so on…

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"There is no such thing as a virus, that is something scientists came up with."


^ See what I did there?


People could come up with the same argument about literally anything.


Though I think we can both agree that disease is real and not something made up.

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except that you can prove a virus is there, it's physical, you can see it and you can see it do work… you can NOT say the same about morals, rules, laws, standards and norms, they do NOT exist and they are just pure insanity…


Saying there is no virus is incorrect as you can be shown one, but saying that you can NOT(is wrong) kill someone is incorrect, because that would mean that if I cut off someone's head off he would NOT die…

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You could say the same about words in the dictionary. If we didn't make up words, there wouldn't be any words.

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Well that absolutely correct if we did NOT make up words, there would be no words, but see the thing is that we made them up just like laws, rules and so on, while viruses we did NOT, saying there are no viruses is like saying there are no cats…


We can NOT just say there are no cats and suddenly there are no cats, but we can say something like drinking alcohol is legal/morally right and boom suddenly something you used to be put in jail for, or killed and shamed for is perfectly legal and is even the soul of many parties… and that happened in real life, alcohol was once viewed as the devil,worse than drugs, etc, etc…

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and when alcohol was viewed as evil, most of the drugs were perfectly legal and often used… see rules, morals, social norms, laws are all just made up and they change when people say so, but you can say there are no cats and viruses all you want there still would be viruses and cats.

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So do you think that words in the dictionary are pure insanity too?


What about math?

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math is very interesting, see math is just observations put into understandable thought patterns to/of our brain, it does NOT exist, yet is correct as it is an observation of the world around us, that's where the term "everything is math" comes from and the closest thing to perfect we have, but it is NOT, many things are flawed in math.

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And if we did NOT think of math or just evolved slightly differently there would be no math, but another concept in its place as brains like to feel secure and safe and NOT understanding something makes the brain afraid, that's how math was spawned and that's how gods were spawned, the problem is that math was spawned out of observations we could explain in a form of thought patterns and gods were the things we could NOT explain.

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Here's something else.


"Drinking too much alcohol can and most often will impair your judgement and in the worst case scenario, lead to your own death from alcohol poisoning alone."

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well eating 250g of salt in less than 30 mins will kill you, drinking 6 liters of water in under an hour will kill you, breathing in 500ml of air a second will kill you, I can go on…

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And don't change the subject, the point is laws, rules, morals, social norms are all made by humans, defined by humans and constantly changed by humans… they are NOT absolute and they are different from culture to culture and ever-changing… thus subjective and an imaginary concept created by a minority to control a majority and the majority fell for it.

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OK, you know what you made your point, but I believe morals and laws exist for good reason even if you think it is pure insanity.

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I'm NOT telling you NOT to believe in them, you can follow those ideas all you want, everything is a choice, but do NOT say they are real when they are not and should NOT be forced on people who do NOT agree with them, but sadly they are forced… kind-of ironic when you think about it.

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I don't believe they are actually intended to control people so much as to protect people from other people and/or their rights.

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They are no less real than math or words in the dictionary.

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You know speaking of rights, there is a man that I can describe as myself, but born 62 years before me and our teachers love to say that two people can NOT think of the exact same thing(s), well I did and so did he and I discovered him this year and I can NOT say it better than he did when it comes to rights NOR do I have enough characters, enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9-R8T1SuG4

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I might look at the video later. But I do want to say this:
While I did say you made your point, it does not mean I agree with your views. I believe laws exist for a good reason even if you personally can't see it. It's more about keeping order than actually controlling people.


But yeah I respect your views but it does not mean I agree with them.

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You can NOT keep order without controlling people, the idea of order is control, in every shape and form of the word.

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But you can do so without being an absolute control freak like North Korea.


The idea behind order is preventing chaos. Human beings can not be trusted to do the right things without some law, guide, or standard to go by.


Rather you like it or not or even agree, you know I'm right. Even if you don't realize it.


Be it man's law or the laws of God. My moral standards are influenced and inspired by the latter.


That said, I consider it much more important to accept certain things than it is to agree with them.

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You of course are entitled to your opinion but know this:


Your opinion doesn't always matter.

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Though I will say this: I believe humans should just be allowed to do what they want so long as they don't hurt anyone either emotionally or physically.


Unfortunately most people simply can not be trusted to do just that.

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My opinion clearly does NOT matter, if it did things would be different.


Also in the past, there existed the so called "utopias" without any laws and actual true democracies where people got together and voted on things without any hierarchies and did NOT enforce the ones who did NOT agree with them to do as they've agreed on, just know what is happening, they were just decent people, but they got invaded and taken over and the potential for that true democracy to spread died out… Greek tribes, India tribes, etc, etc… The Romans and others ruined it basically…

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Psychoman you've kind of got a consumed by a single basic conceit (that man-made beliefs and rules aren't real), but it's an idea that goes nowhere. Everyone knows these aren't physical things; without humanity, none of these things would exist, but the house you live in, built by people, would.


But then you extrapolate that idea so far as to suggest it would be Utopian to live in a world without rules. You're talking about the difference between civilised society and savages, as if the latter could be preferable. Obviously there are laws and rules we don't all agree with but the majority are necessary for a functioning society. Without rules we'd be kicking about with sticks and stones. Your complaints about graphics cards generations not being big enough leaps would have to be even louder. Anything so complex as a highly developed society would collapse in an instant.


The concept of murder as a crime is an interesting one, as it's a crime in every society in the world. What constitutes murder is what changes, but civilization is united in the idea that cold blooded murder is wrong, and I think you must innately know it too. You couldn't see the wrong is going out and murdering an 18-year-old. Who'd been born in 2000, grown up, went to school, got an education, had friends, a family, and a life ahead of them. And then if you were to commit the ultimate theft and steal that away from both them and everyone they knew. And you're telling me you can't see a wrong there?

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Well, we COULD live without rules, laws and so on and many civilizations did for a short period of time and thrived, before organized warmongerers either took them over or threatened them to take them over. There is no reason to steal from each other or kill each other for personal gain for as long as we could farm food and build shelter, but people are greedy and the values of people for a very long time have been who can have the most toys(cars, houses, tech, jewelry, etc, etc) and the toys that have been deemed more valuable by society when in reality they are NOT valuable at all… go figure…

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Now I'm NOT against having material things, but they should NOT be valued as highly as they are and should NOT be had and thrown away when one realizes they are not interesting, of course, people crave what they do NOT have and devalue what they have overtime really fast. Material things should be just to pass time and entertain, while most people have dedicated their lives to money(pure insanity is the currency system) and material bs…


Just doesn't seem logical… putting an abstract value on objects… Works for games, but not very much IRL… people being productive for objects, instead of productivity itself… meh…

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Also, murder would be problematic if life had value… if we all died it would NOT matter, if existence stopped existing it would NOT matter, it only matters, because people say and think it does… What difference would there be if we all died, the entire planet died, solar system, galaxy, all galaxies.


And if anything considering black holes expand all the time, in the end, the strongest black hole would win and the entire existence would be a black hole… we'd be dead anyway sooner or later, unless we can develop a way to survive infinite gravity XD

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Exactly, you've got the core of it there. People are greedy, they always want more. That's largely human nature. It's why in a lawless society, warmongers can take over. These rules and laws are designed to limit that, although obviously the current situation is favouring the wealthy and the powerful to a greater degree, which does need reining in.

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And to your last point, that's what I'm saying, it's a human construct, but while humans exist, taking a life does matter. There's no point arguing the theoretical what ifs of rules and laws if humans didn't exist, because we are humans and we exist and we are discussing how to treat other humans that are existing. Simply saying nothing matters is like elementary grade philosophy. Things matter because we are sentient, thinking things.

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Because we can think doesn't… well… matter… if it did, then if people said/thought that gravity repels rather than attracts then we'd be propelled in space.

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And age above 7-8 years old really does NOT matter that's for sure, as the brain is 75-80% developed and in the most vital areas so comprehension CAN be almost as good as an adult by that time and 95% developed by age 12-14 there is no excuse and then until 20-22 it fully develops, but many kids act stupid and do NOT think, because they are treated that way, like stupid kids that do NOT think, should NOT think and so on… and suddenly just because they are at age "X"(16-21) somehow magically they now must be "mature", "act like adults", etc, etc… when they've been treated as kids until then…

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Now you can say that things matter TO someone, like matter TO you, me, people in general and so on, but to say that something matters as an absolute is absolutely false.


Nothing is absolute, everything is relative, especially man-made concepts like morals, laws, rules, etc, etc and that's why they are different from culture to culture and no more "wrong" or "right" and that's why I dislike them, they are just an imaginary layer that is utterly pointless and illogical… on which generations have been built and live on and now people accept them like laws of physics… -_-

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Like, literally all you have going for your philosophical ideas is the most shallow concept of nihilism. It's the same concept that comes out of angsty teenagers looking to rebel. It's not hugely interesting or worth discussing if someone can't attach a worth to anything whatsoever. Without the acceptance that anything has value to you, what is the point in even turning up here and writing this? You'll be dead in 100 years so why bother. It's the philosophical equivalent of 'I know you are but what am I?'

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Well again you are searching for a meaning(point), why can't things just be? No reason, no grand scheme, no great plan, no meaning… if there was a meaning then life would suck, let's say the meaning(point) of life is to go to war and all you can do is go to war, make food, make shelter, develop weapons, well what if I do NOT want to go to war, what if I want to be a musician, artist, etc, totally pointless to a war driven life with such meaning, but you wouldn't be able to do that.

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Well for the longest time the human-made meaning and point of living has been, be born, study and learn a skill, have or a job/career, get cash, have a family, die, your kids repeat and there really is nothing you can do about it… I mean you can skip the family part and that's about it… and no matter what variation you do it in, it's basically the same on a High abstraction level and Low abstraction level, on a medium abstraction level one can bullsh*t oneself all one wants, but yeah, calling something a different name, does NOT change that something.

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oh yeah also, obey, obey, obey…

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Of course, I'm talking about western cultures, now I can NOT speak for all of them.

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You do realise this is all drivel, don't you? There's no coherent point you're making here. Like, bringing this up in a topic about being nice to people just feels like you're trying to desperately crowbar in nihilist philosophy to anyone that'll listen. It's basically the definition of pointless, so it's not really a surprise you're struggling to find meaning with anything. What are you trying to achieve here?

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Sorry, I'm just reflecting on my comment and I don't want it to sound offensive. I just can't understand what your point is here.

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I'm NOT trying to achieve anything much of anything, I'm just saying/writing as I see things, to me there are no negatives and positives, no rights and wrongs, just "A" and "B"(and "C" and "D" and so on if possibility allows for it).


The only point overall I want to make is that nothing is absolute, everything is relative and that nothing should be forced on anybody and nobody should be forced to do things he disagrees with, which man-made limitations and concepts do.

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Also, I can never be offended by words, they are just words, you can wish death to my family, rape for my mother, cancer for my father, Ebola to my brother, parallelization for me, name it, I won't be offended, nor would I care.

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The other point I guess is that people should stop putting value in objects to the point they do and stop wanting more for the sake of wanting more, but that got out of the initial topic.

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Sigh, so tiresome. I'm just going to chalk this up to Dunning-Kruger or something.

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Well, that would be incorrect, from what I read the definition of this effect is, this has nothing to do with superiority as humans can NOT be superior to other humans as the potential in all humans, without any defect like mental or physical problems, of course, is the same overall. And this has nothing to do with superiority… -_-


IDK where you got that assumption from…

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I think you've misunderstood how it manifests. Feigning intense philosophical knowledge due to a single nugget of information, and building the foundations of a discussion on that nugget, fits the bill nicely.

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More to the point, try to get outside of your own head and read back your last 30 or so comments here, and then try to impartially judge whether it's absolutely nonsensical or if it is indeed wisdom.

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But I do NOT view this as any sort of philosophy, or if so everything is a philosophy which, to be honest kinda is, the definition of philosophy is quite broad.


It's not nonsensical, it's true. People have turned man-made concepts into an equivalent of physics laws and into absolutes and try to enforce them on each other regardless… when every man-made concept is subjective and relative. Humans do NOT possess any sort of power to say what is and isn't…

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I've tried to prove myself incorrect much more than anybody else has tried to prove me wrong and I can NOT do so, the only counter-arguments I can think of are subjective and different people would say opposites… so yeah… I can NOT prove myself wrong and so far people that have tried have all come up with subjective reasonings, same as I have.


Before I agree with something I try to view the opposite side of the thing in every possible opposite way, but in this case, I can NOT do so, everything I or other people have come up with is subjective and relative.

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But no one is doing what you're saying. Laws, rules and culture are fluid and change over time, they are not sacrosanct.


Let's take this little gem as I try to understand your point: "And I do NOT "believe" in, more accurately agree with rights and wrongs, dos and don'ts, but sadly I have to abide them, otherwise I get killed or worse go to jail… brutally efficient system based on brainwashing, social pressure and conformism, brilliant and yet absolutely screws me over"


What exactly, with this current system, is screwing you over? Which right or wrong do you not fall in line with that you want to do, but society tells you, you cannot? Bear in mind that the implementation of these laws is designed so you cannot screw someone else over, which in itself would be selfish, egotistical behaviour (which doesn't actually exist, yadda yadda).

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Psychoman,


Jon has been right this whole time. There's a difference between ordering someone around and making a law that forbids murder.


That said the reason I said certain morals are absolute is because, and I really can't say this without delving into religion yet again, is because God himself ordained (In this case meaning to "order or decree (something) officially") them through the 10 commandments and other means. Because not only did he make the laws that govern life itself but also because he is both the law and life itself.


Now you can choose to accept it or deny/disagree with it. However…

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Just know that if you pick the latter option, you are only fooling yourself.


I know because I have done it myself in the past and continue to do so on occasion but at least I can say, with confidence, I learn from my mistakes.

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You of course also have the choice to accept God or deny him but either way I pray that God has mercy on your soul.

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@Jon how I'm screwed over? Being forced to go to school that is absolutely useless and wastes 11 out of the 12 years I got there, no choice, yeah I have a choice of school, but they are all the same, then universities are the same…


After that you have no freedom to do what you want wherever you want, so you are NOT free… then they implant and brainwash us with material ideals and strives for money and material bs, so that everybody's life goal is to earn as much money as possible and working in companies is the worst as you are a part of a competitive bs environment full of careerists, instead of…

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…instead of people wanting to work with other people and do something cool and have fun and enjoy their job, instead of but licking…


Then there is the lack of choice of everything else, you can choose a lot of flavors of 1x thing in all spheres, but it's still the same things… be it politics, news and everything material and every social norm and rule and standard, it's the same but a different flavour in the western cultures… having 10 different flavours of ice-cream still makes it ice-cream and having 10 different types of sht still makes it *.


And we are demoralized from everything individual and bent to conform

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And then there is the no real choice in life as I said, you are born, you study, you work, optionally have a family, die… you can NOT escape from that… -_-

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Then there are things such as dress codes, you can't be at this place unless you wear this type of clothes… -_-
Then there are all sorts of dumb manners and standards… all of them are just crap and limit doing whatever I want, whenever I want -> freedom…

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Yes, but also according to god everything happens according is to his divine, ultimately good plan, so that means that you, if you believe in god murder, is NOT wrong as it is happening according to his(god's) own plan which is ultimately good and correct.

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That is incorrect. he simply allows these things to happen. they do not necessarily fall into his will. so no, murder is still wrong.

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But everything he allows to happen is according to his plan, that's why he allows it to happen. It can't be that everything is according to his plan, except this and that, it's a divine plan that everybody falls into, you can't just exclude some people, because it benefits the way you are thinking. I mean if the bible is NOT correct, I have had 0 contacts with god to tell me what's what, so what now?… We can't just assume… XD

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it happens because he gave humans free will. but also why he gave us laws in the first place. what a person does, does not necessarily agree with his will. simple as that.

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then if humans have free will that is NOT controlled by god, then he does NOT have a divine plan, but according to the bible he does.

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It all falls into his plan but it does not make the acts any more acceptable. He knows our entire future and you might be wondering "how is it that we have free will then?"


Believe it or not, I have asked the same question.


I realized that the only answer I ever really needed was:
"Because God said so."


Plus think about it, if we didn't have free will, then would just be (biological) robots. We wouldn't be anything special to him so it makes sense to me.

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Well, this: "Because God said so" I will never agree with, even if the so-called god came down to earth and transformed a dog into an elephant, I would still NOT follow him and do as he says…


And again us doing something he does NOT like means it's NOT according to his plan, because why make a plan that you do NOT like and has "evil" in it when it said for the plan to be ultimate and good can NOT have "evil" in it.

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sigh… It's more important to accept than to agree with something.


For example. My boss changed my work schedule on me without asking me first which I was not happy with as you can imagine.


But I accepted it. You can disagree with something and still choose to accept it. Might not make much sense now but it will later.


God's plan is complicated and it's something I will never be able to understand while I am alive and in this world. I simply choose to trust his plan even if I can't understand it.

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That said if you need another reason it's because knowing what choice a person is going to make does not deprive them of any possibility of making the other choice even when it's God who knows everything you will do from the moment you are born to the moment you die with 100% accuracy.

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That said, even if you never accept him, you and everyone else will recognize him in the end.


I guarantee you that every non-believer who has perished to this day wishes they had accepted him. You would do the same if you were in their place at this very moment.


Burning in hell because of a choice THEY made, not God. He doesn't force decisions on those that are fully capable of making one on their own.


And if he does have to make the choice for them? He would choose heaven without a second thought even not a single person on Earth actually deserves heaven. Which is the very definition of (cont.)

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grace in Christian belief.

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Hey if god exists I would never want to go to heaven, better burning with all my senses together, than brainwashed and arse kissing all day every day in heaven…


And I have accepted many things that I disagree with, but I will not do so for someone who wants to be followed and arse kissed by something that one created. It's like writing software that tells you how great you are… -_-

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And still according to you the bible contradicts itself as according to the bible, EVERYTHING happens according to gods divine plan set in motion from the very beginning so that everything goes according to what he wants to happen, yet here you are saying that is NOT true, then you do NOT believe in christianity, because you disagree with the bible XD


You believe in some self-made self-fulfilling religion, which there is nothing wrong, I mean all religions are man-made by a few people on a hill or any other isolated place with no witnesses, but still, you want it to be christianity.

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Well as I have already said and admitted that the whole way it is set up is beyond human ability to comprehend


That said you clearly don't know as much as you think about Christianity. I told you how it is and you continue to insist that everything I say is contradictory to what the bible teaches.


Though clearly you don't understand the bible as much as you continue to fool yourself into thinking you do.


So I will say it one last time: Evil does not fall anywhere into his plan because he condemns any and all form of evil except where evil itself purged from existence.

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Well considering god created evil, it is in his plan… -_-
Which verse of the bible states that evil is NOT in his plan and NOT his creation?


You are just shifting and diluting what the bible says to fill what you want to think about it…


Everything we know about god is from humans, so by this logic I can say that I saw god and he spoke to me and told me that humans should start killing themselves, I'm NOT different from the pot heads that claim to have dreamed and saw god, or should I say each god that was such that fulfilled their wishes and made it so that things went according to how they wanted them to be.

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And don't give me the beyond human comprehension stuff, if it's beyond human comprehension, the prophets wouldn't have been able to "see" god in the first place, nor comprehend him…


And you told me how it is, according to what you want it to be, no where in the bible is it said what you say, but yet in the bible it is said that life is according to gods divine plan set in motion long ago, it is said that he created everything, NOT everything except evil and you just continue to deny it.

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I don't hate you but you continue to insist that that you are right and I am wrong and refusing to admit you are wrong. This is also something I have done in the past.


That said what Jon said in his comment below is right.

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Well so far the only reason I am to be wrong is that you said so, you give no logic, evidence, sources, nothing, you just twist it in a way you'd like to see things, I go off of nothing, you are saying what you'd like things to be without giving arguments that are based on something.

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….


Look man it takes a lot for me to truly hate someone, but you are really ticking a lot of people off and I have been patient with you this whole time. Now that patience is running thin.


I will not block you as I am hesitant to block anyone for personal reasons but due to your comments ruining and creating what I consider somewhat of a hostile environment with your comments in the comments section of my past two blogs and other places on the site.


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Hmm… IDK about you, but this entire debate I've been chill and enjoy the clash of ideas and points of view, I mean it's a debate. IDK why you are getting mad.

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I am going to have to forbid you from replying to any of my blogs for the remainder of the year or until you admit just how wrong you are and you stop fooling yourself.


Some of us believe you are actually a low-functioning psychopath in reality, though I won't say who said it, but I have my doubts.


You seem capable of reason yet you refuse to budge. This is why I doubt it.

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Well for me to "budge" I need reasoning, facts, arguments that are based on something and logic. Not just statements that you say without anything to back them up… you say "A" and it's "A", because you said so, I at least give arguments, logical points and go of off what the bible actually says.

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Part of the problem is you taking the bible too literally. I can say this and it is saying a lot because I tend to take things literally unless it is first explained to me.


Also no one was created evil, Satan was not created evil. It is not the opposite of good but the absence of it. Just like darkness is the absence of light.

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Well if I am NOT to take the bible literaly, then it's more of a fable that it is and everybody can interpret it however one wants, which I guess is what you are doing.


And then on the second point, by that logic I just have to rephrase myself, it is in gods plan to have an absence of good, I mean replacing a word, with its definition is not much of a difference, words are there to make definitions shorter after all.

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Now again, no more responding to any of my blogs for the remainder of the year.


Including this comment, otherwise I will be forced to block you here and now and I don't want to have to do that. If you want to talk to me do so directly from my profile.

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Wow, this conversation has gone off-piste.

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Hey, I'm enjoying every second of it, I love it when a debate is long and intresting.

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