(POLL) GTX 1060 or GTX 2050?
Written by: NeoPGX - 00:43 Jan-08-2019

Oh and please do not suggest AMD. I am done with them.


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Psychoman and StevenPlebster,


Please do not comment on this blog with stuff unrelated to it. I consider that spam, take it to your profile walls.


Thank you for understanding.

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Done and done. :)

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So let's recap this precarious situation you found ourselves in, shall we?
You don't clean your PC. You don't do any basic maintantance such as replacing thermal paste in a gaming rig especially.

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You have bought an OEM GPU, not a reference card straight from AMD.
You bought that OEM GPU from Gigabyte. Although they're pretty trusted and good brand they're ocassionally known to skimp a bit on quality for their mid range products.

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You exibit some strange behaviour with your GPU, such as overheating or shutting down at temperatures within which it should be able to function quite well.

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You dismiss any or all possible recommendations for finding or even diagnosing a solution to your issue to it being strictly AMD.

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So It's their fault you don't clean your PC. It's their fault you don't do basic maintenance. It's their fault you bought a non reference card from an OEM manufacturer.

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The only issue that could be AMD's fault is the overheating issues you're exibiting and GPU shutting down before it should. But even that's unlikely due to the fact that not many people reported to have such problems with the same card, …

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, and due to the fact that OEMs are allowed to tinker with basically everything surrounding the GPU, including bios. Everything apart from the chip itself.

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Well how haven't I seen it before. All these things certainly suggest that it is definitely AMD's issue. I guess you weren't wrong.

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Now to add to this. You want to replace this card with a 3 year old GPU, which is barely 40 to 50% better than your current one. You don't plan to actually play any new games on your machine, which makes the update even less meaningfull.

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And to top all that off, you don't seem to have much money to waste on this meaningless update due to you mentioning you can't afford a better card?


So tell me again? If you're so eager not to waste money, why waste money?

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Yeah, that's about it. You hit the nail.
And I'm sure that if he maintained his PC the GPU wouldn't go over 75C, but oh well… and it shouldn't be shutting down before 105C, so he played with something and doesn't want to admit it… or lack of maintenance screwed his PC, but the former is highly more likely.


Only thing is that someone should level you up, since I know how painful it is to have to replay 100 times to your own comments, due to running out of characters…

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I have no idea how to level up. I couldn't find any guidance to how to do so.
And this comment system is pretty much trash. I kinda understand the need for limiting the characters, but I don't like it, and they're very strict with it.

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Well you can do it by adding benchmarks, approving added hardware to the database, helping people, adding friends, writing blogs and articles and that's about it I think.

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And yeah I dislike the comment system too, it was on my list for the Christmas GD improvements for next(now current) year.

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Also, another thing is that you can't reply well and sometimes the reply goes away and you have to reply at the bottom…

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Yeah. I like this site but I don't necessarily want to, nor have the time to, bother myself doing more tasks. I guess I'll just have to get used to multiple comments, and to shorter thought.

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I have not modded my GPU outside what the driver software itself comes with. So it has always been this way.


But yes I know for a fact that it is and I blame AMD for the issues because they are responsible for the chip which powers my GPU not gigabyte, in fact the cooling setup for my GPU is similar to that of the wraith cooler so it is very good in fact. So the high powerdraw can be the only real explaination.


Also as I have stated multiple times, which you seem to keep ignoring, is that my friends have had similar issues (cont.)

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High power draw? Mate my GPU consumes like 125-130W… how is that high? The gtx 1060 has the same power consumption.
And IDK what friends you have, but i have a friend with a r9 380X and it's cool as hell too… doesn't go over 71-73C considering it's got a bigger cooler and consumes more power. It's from MSI…
My brother's and my friends rx 460(from powercolor and sapphire) don't go over 65C…


What's your cooling setup? How many case fans, is your case well ventilated as a whole, do you clean it regularly from dust. Will you at least try changing your GPU's thermal paste? 5$ and it's a good thing to learn, no matter the GPU(well if it's 120W or above) you need to change the thermal paste regularly.

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with AMD and a bit of research clearly indicates this is all too common a problem with AMD GPUs.

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There are tons of problems with Nvidia GPUs too… what's your point?
I can find you over 20 gtx 1060 problems form a quick google search in 5 minutes… -_-

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No the GTX 1060 and the R 380 do not have the same power consumption, it's 190W for the R9 380, and 120W for the GTX 1060.


70W difference, which is significant.

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AMD rates TDP as the maximum theoretical heat output of the chip,
Nvidia rates TDP at stock clock speeds(not even boost clock speeds).
TDP stands for Thermal Design Power and it is NOT power consumption… My r9 380 consumes 125-130W on full load at the stock clock speeds… -_-
I've undervolted it and it actually consumes 100-105W now and runs 5-7C cooler than what it used to(and what I mentioned above and below). Bluj511(I think his name was) did the same.

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Well there are two things I forgot to mention. I have a cousin who has an AMD GPU and it runs cool for him but I should also mention that his case is also significantly bigger than mine so that might be the reason as the heat is more spread out whereas in smaller cases, it would be more concentrated.


This is my case: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003YVJJ5Y/


It still has the fan it came with in the front but I replaced the back and top one with Noctua SSO2 bearing fans.


There are two places on the side, one right above the other that are empty. (cont.)

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I plan to fill those up this summer. Though I am certain it won't make much of a difference. A friend of mine stated that it made a difference of 10C.

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But even so the Noctua cards as they are should be doing the trick, as they are not only quiet but known for being very powerful as well. I'm talking premium quality.

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In the mean time I have considered having a desk fan sit on the floor and blow into the case. Though I question how effective that would be.

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The simplest thing for your case is to keep it open.

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To be fair Psychoman and Steven do sound like they make a decent case. Your GPU is exhibiting problems which aren't ordinary, and not frequent with AMD GPUs. Contrary to what most people tend to believe, both AMD and Nvidia are fairly reliable manufacturers, and their products are more often than not working fine and as intended.
This is my second AMD GPU in the past 5 years, and before that I was exclusively with Nvidia after my second PC which had an ATI GPU.

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If anything, most trouble I've ever had with PC's, if we exclude all my blown out PSUs, was Nvidia. I've had 3 of their GPU's die on me, but I also have one which has been working for the last 11 years in my dads PC. My previous AMDs GPU, R9 270 died after around 4 years, and since then I've had this one. They both worked well, this one in particular.

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It uses around 130W at full load and never goes over 70-73 degrees with a custom fan curve I've set, and while idling it's at rooms temperature.
If I were to choose another GPU again, I'd have no reason not to pick either based solely on their reliability. Price to performance though was what I was always about, and AMD just tends to win over Nvidia there lately, so it was an easy choice for me to make.

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Well believe me I haven't done anything to it.

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I'm not here to judge. I believe you that the issues probably aren't in your control, but maybe you should give it a proper cleaning and swap out the thermal paste.
My point is that you shouldn't exclude either of those two brands because they're literally the only two that exist. You're extremely limiting yourself with your decision which is really not good in this situation.

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I guess be wary of AMD's products but don't rule them out if your main purchasing decision is tied to your limited budget. You'll only end up hurting your wallet in the long run. And if you don't grow money on trees, that's not the best idea.

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Don't forget that Intel will soon be joining the problem. But yeah I'm 100% certain I know what I am talking about.


I have never had issues with Nvidia and yet, every AMD GPU I've had, has given me issues. I don't think it's mere coincidence either.


Maybe I am just an unlucky person, not that I believe in luck.


Also I refuse to open up my GPU to apply thermal paste. Not only because I have none or any idea where to find them in a walmart or some other brick and mortar store.


But I also don't want to risk damaging it in some way. So yeah, I'm going to have to refuse.

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I do thin it's a coincidence but I guess to each his own then.
I've built plenty of PCs for friends and family with a wide range of hardware from all 3 PC manufacturers. Most of them were systems with AMD GPUs in them. None of them ever had any problems, and those that did were responsible for them.
If you don't stab it, push it, force it or it falls, it's not gonna get damaged. You just gotta be careful as with everything PC related.

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Yeah I know but I have an anxiety disorder (and autistic to boot) so I tend to worry very easily.

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"Don't forget that Intel will soon be joining the problem."


LOL, I can only laugh at myself right now.


Somehow I subconsciously wrote problem at the end of the sentence. Either that or I am thinking too many thoughts at once.


What I meant to say is that Intel will soon be joining the GPU market which could be soon or a year from now, but Nvidia is available now so yeah.

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Well, I can tell you this the RX 470,480,570,580 and 590 have better quality VRMs than most GTX 1080Tis… let alone the gtx 1060 and that's a fact. Just check the VRMs.
Nvidia uses ok VRMs, but they are mediocre. Their partners use mediocre VRMs too, except on some of the very expensive, custom PCB models.

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Bottom line is it's not recommended to get a gtx 1060, especially new. You will have to upgrade in 2 years… this year 7nm GPUs come out, next year many games that take advantage of the power of new GPUs and even though you said that you won't play new games, you will play at least some.
Of course you could also just lower settings and resolution.

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Alright guys, so I have decided that I will be getting the GTX 1060 against everyone else's advice because I really want to upgrade soon and the GTX 1060 is available now. The GTX 1070 is preferred but too expensive for me to even consider worth upgrading.


I have thought long and hard about this decision and decided this is the best option available without going to AMD. I'm sorry but after being burned twice by AMD in the GPU department, I am not giving their GPUs another chance.


Now I might consider Zen when I build my next PC but that is a HUGE maybe. I most likely will just go with an Intel CPU.

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That is all I have to say. Don't try to change my mind, you won't succeed.

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Alright.
Although after that Zen 2 presentation I doubt anyone would want to go Intel.

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I haven't seen the Zen 2 presentation, don't intend to watch it.

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In short, AMDs early engineering sample, very possibly mid range chip, beat i9 9900k with a pretty substantial 50W less power requirements.

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Well if that is the case I may just consider it. Because less power usage means less heat heat output.


I will not promise anything however. It all depends on what I want to build and what is available at the time. It also has to make sense.

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IDK why you even made this blog when you had already made your mind XD


Also, it's at half the power of the i9 9900k that the Ryzen beats it by 2-3%, that was total system power usage, not just the CPU power usage.

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Because when I made the blog I haven't made up my mind.


Also I may hold off on getting the GTX 1060 due to rumors of the GTX 2060 existing.

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Well do as you will, unless you get the gtx 1060 for very cheap, it's a stinky upgrade…


Just change your GPU's thermal paste, add a couple of fans and you'll be perfectly fine…

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Well I need to upgrade either way. This is not just about the heating issues.


But like I said I am waiting to see if the GTX 2060 exists. Which is supposedly a lot cheaper due to lack of RTX Raytracing support.


Which is definitely not something I need.

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You need an upgrade for 720p? Not really, tgis GPU is good for 2560x1080 for 99.9% of games, let alone 720p.

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no… it's 1080p I forgot to update the resolution

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Unless you need an update right now than either of those two are pretty bad replacements. I recommend you wait a few more months, until AMD hopefully announces Navi GPUs, or, if you have to, consider getting a used 1070 or even 1080 which seem to be selling at fairly affordable prices lately.

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If I were to get a GTX 1070 it would be new. I refuse to buy anything used unless it's an old game or game console.

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Well then you're an idiot. You really hate money, don't you? Not only consciously limiting yourself to monopoly but also unwilling to save a buck. Hope you have a big wallet because that's what you'll need from this point onwards.

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Think what you want but I have considered buying used GPUs in the past but later decided it was a bad idea mostly due to trust issues.


If I buy hardware, I want one that is covered by warranty in case something happens to it and also untouched and not modified in anyway.


You just don't get that with used products. Because there's no telling what has been done to the product and chances are, the warranty has expired.

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You also want a belly rub and a kiss for good night?
Open that wallet wide, Jensen is waiting patiently. Green tax is the future, but you don't have to start now.

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Now you're just trying to insult me.

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@StevenPlebster


IDK about him but I hate money "with a passion". :P
Otherwise, he is right not to buy GPUs currently second hand, 99.9% of them have been used for mining and 0.1% are expensive just because they haven't been used for mining, so much so it's not worth the money you save from getting it second hand…

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If you do I'll give you some info so you can offload your money problems to me. That way you'll never have to worry about having money again!

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I feel like you're making a mistake there, but I can understand why you don't want used GPUs.
I'd urge you to still consider options from team Red, but if you don't want to, that's your choice.
But regardless of that, neither of those 2 cards would be a good upgrade over your current GPU. One is older and other one still doesn't exist nor were there any rumors about it whatsoever. If nothing else than maybe you should consider 2060, but that to me is a really bad value.

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50+ percent greater is not a bad upgrade, unless you are considering that solely based on the price.

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To me, anything below 80% performance improvement is not good.
And these prices too aren't helping in that matter.

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Well it's not like I plan on playing any new games for a long time. I am mainly getting it for ARK: Survival Evolved and some older games that I enjoy. I have a huge backlog and I just want to be able to play them even more smoothly than before. Like the Witcher 3 and Fallout 4.

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I heard from a friend that the GTX 1060 6GB runs ARK on high really well. I asked her what the FPS was, she said "felt like 60fps".

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Also here is the comparison between my GPU and the GPU I have been considering getting:


https://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=3615&gid2=3096&compare=geforce-gtx-1060-evga-sc-gaming-6gb-vs-radeon-r9-380-gigabyte-g1-gaming-4gb-edition


It's really not that bad when you think about it.

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@NeoGamerX


I would advise you to look how the gtx 1060 performs in specific games against the r9 380, because that 67% is inflated due to some newer games where it performs much better while in older or not Nvidia Optimized games not so much.

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Otherwise yeah 80% is the worst case scenario you want as a performance upgrade for the same money, or just in general if value is not a concern for you.

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Like I said before, I am not interested in playing any new games for a while. I have too big of a backlog of older games I want to play first.


As far as performance is concerned tho, I could always OC the GPU slightly to make it match the 80% level.


Though I probably would only have that done for certain games.

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If you can afford a gtx 1070 get that, otherwise a gtx 1060 for 200$ or less would be good, or a rx 580s can be found for 150-170$ which would be a better value if the gtx 1060 costs more.


Don't spend a lot of money on poor upgrade in performance.

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If anything it'll be the GTX 1060 because that's what is available now and I refuse to buy another AMD GPU.

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@StevenPlebster
Steve, steve, it's not that I hate my money, I hate all money, the usage of money, well current money at least… I don't mind a currency that can't be and is NOT based on exploitation, manipulation, corruption, supply and demand and all the things that are not pure productivity, sadly we can't measure productivity in a sense where people would reach a concensus on it.


Current money is an imaginary concept which works only because people believe in it and the governments said so… You could be useless and still get money… you couldn't be the hardest worked and super productive and still get less than a dude that inherited a company and unlike his predecessor, doesn't work at all… and many other examples…

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As long as there exists an intelligent form of life in which individuals have free will, exploitation, manipulation and corruption will always exists. That's the nature of intelligent life ruled by individuals.

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Also how would you even measure productivity? What even is productivity? Is it just work or something more?
You need to define it in order to measure it. And even then, how would you measure it?

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If we assume that it's just work, how will you make sure that everyone gets the necessary currency needed?
A farm workers job is as important as a scientists is. But one provides with labor, other with brain.

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Both are different yet equally important for humanity to progress.
People have already reached a census on rewarding productive work. Than census is, sadly for you, just money.

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Well, that's the problem as I said we can't measure productivity objectively to reach a consensus… Even if I define productivity, there will be always someone who will disagree.


Then there is a non-trade form of economy, where there is no currency, people just do all the work that has production in it, remove all pointless services, only the necessary ones will remain and everybody will get everything since we overproduce everything anyway… but then there are people who won't even have to work and those who will slack…


Currently, another thing that sucks is that about a fifth of the planet's workforce is needed and can have enough production to satisfy the entire population, we are way too good at producing stuff and work as a whole, but yet everybody has to work…

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Egh… I don't think this blog is the right place to discuss this, but sure is a great discussion.

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I have a feeling that the currency you propose would always eventually boil down to what money is today. Only the name will most probably change, and the means of acquisition. But the rest will remain the same.

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We are a very productive species. And if we were one whole, instead of 200 different pockets of individual groups, I believe humanity would be able to progress at an unbelievable rate.

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But that theorizes perfection, and as long as there is a semblance of free will and a strive towards it, such thing will probably never happen.

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Any species, including humans, are at their best when their existence is at stake. As sad as it sounds, some of the most impressive human inventions came to be from wars, or incorporating primitive tech into weapons of war.

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Oh yes, I've been saying this for years, borders are dumb, many languages are dumb, dividing people based on their skin color, geographical place, and other shallow and stupid characteristics is pointless and dumb…

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Now that's not to say that I want to constantly fight for my life. I'm happy how it is. We live in the time of the greatest peace humanity ever had, and I hope that'll last for a long time.

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It's just an interesting thing to consider.

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And yes the biggest technological advancements and groundwork for many future ones were developed during war, when we are as productive as possible for the sake of productivity and not money, so that we come on top of the opposite side of the conflict, war is fascinating in many ways.

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Borders are very, very primitive when you look at them. It's marking territory just as wolves pee on trees or bears leave scratch marks. The fact that we still, after so many years of progress, double in such primitivism is funny.

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I don't think languages are inherently dumb. It's a part of history. A part of what was. Piece of tradition. I do though believe that there should be a globalized language.

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Something that everyone on the planet is supposed to learn and know in order to communicate. That is English now, but I don't think that's the best language for it. English is pretty dumb to be honest.

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A globalized language which was devised by humans as a whole, which will be understood by humans as a whole. Or if nothing else, a universal translator would do that trick.

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Our whole social hierarchy and society are primitive sadly…


Our whole system is a zero-sum game or even worse than a zero-sum game. Someone succeeding means that at the very least one other person fails, usually much more than one depending on the success. We still divide our self based on the abstract concept of "social status" or any other status there is…


We are in some ways even worse than the animals we call ourselves better than. We are one of the few animals to actually kill their own kind for the benefit of the killer, most other animals might fight, but not kill(on purpose) their own kind… we are just as selfish as all animals are if not more… we are much more greedy than animals. As we've evolved we've also devolved in many ways sadly…

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English is the most common language in the world now simply because of how massive the British Empire was back in the day, and due to them imposing that language onto their colonies.

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And I'm not saying languages as a concept are dumb, I'm saying that having multiple languages that keep us from communicating is dumb. Having to spend years studying many languages just to communicate is dumb and a waste of time.


I'd say there needs to be one universal language(as you too said) doesn't matter which one, might be even a new one, and the rest will be preserved, but not necessary to know, you'll study them like secondary languages for example.

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One interesting tidbit of history. Brits always, through history, always refereed to themselves as an Empire, but they actually never ever had an Emperor. Brits were always a kingdom.

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So true XD
Well the classic definition of an Empire is a country that has many different cultures and prior nations under its rule, so they by definition were and even now are(Wales, England, Northern Ireland and Scotland). I think they never had an emperor, because they weren't very good friends with the pope of the Vatican and I believe he was the one that was required to crown you an Emperor. Especially when they went protestant XD

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That's true. Brits are strange people. Very scary too, not ones to be messed with. Manipulative little things they are.

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Humans are the most advanced species this planet ever had, but yes, we're still very young and very primitive in so many aspects of life. Most of it is due to progress and social norms which are changing but slowly.

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But some are just due to us being humans. And that is the part we'll have to advance in order to progress. Not just being humans, but being more.

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But that'll evolution fix for us. Either forced, natural or technological. Presuming we don't wipe ourselves first, and we're sadly very good at the last one too.

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Wiping ourselves isn't bad. Nobody would moan our deaths :D
Otherwise, the moment we have robots for every work available, that is the moment where the current system will crash as people will not be required to work in almost any field. Then a real restructuring will begin.

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It'd be bad to an extent. As far as we know, building blocks of life are rare, almost immeasurably rare. To waste that on ourselves would be, just kinda, you know, a waste.

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But to end this short discussion. This is not the right post to talk about this, nor even the right site. And I think we've said pretty much what we wanted to.

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Either are going to be extremely poor upgrades from what you have now…. I don't know why you're "done" with AMD, I've used both, and overall, I'd rate the experience pretty much the same bewteen AMD and Nvidia, and I think you're really limiting your options by refusing toi consider Navi, but whatevs, you do you…….. I think a used 1070 would be a far better option than either you listed, and can be had for less than $250 on ebay…. I've seen them as low as $220 myself

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The reason is bad experiences mostly due to the system being loud due to high heat output and system shutdowns due to overheating.


Nvidia is the way the way to go for me now.


That said, I think GTX 1060 6GB GPU is good enough. (50+ percent is actually decent)


That said, I refuse to buy a used GPU.

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I'd say your GPU woes are likely AIB related rather than AMD related….. Gigabyte is on and off with their cooler designs, sometimes they're great, sometimes they're utter garbage, and they can't keep even a moderately toasty GPU under 80 degrees C with two big fans….. I stopped buying Gigabyte quite a while ago because I've found their quality and design to be hit or miss….. if you ask me, 1060s are a bit overpriced, the 580 performs slightly better and is usually MUCH cheaper.

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It's both actually but more AMDs fault. Just look at the powerdraw of the card. It's significantly higher than the GTX 1060.


As a result, it runs way hotter. That cooling solution is better suited for lower end cards.

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the 380 was AMD trying to squeeze the last little bit of life out of an already aging architecture, pushing it probably a bit higher than it should have been pushed, so yeah, it's going to have a tendency to run a bit hotter, the AIB should know better than to pair them with badly designed, crappy coolers.

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Which only proves my point. AMD knew their architecture was aging yet they went ahead with it anyway and their GPUs suffered as a result.

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What do you propose, they should've screwed GPU's all together? Developing a new architecture is an extremely costly and lengthy process, neither of which AMD had at the time so they did what they could.

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I would much prefer to spend more money on a GPU if it meant running better and cooler.


"neither of which AMD had at the time so they did what they could."


I don't accept that excuse, in fact I would accept literally no excuses for that.

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Limiting yourself to only one supplier in a duopoly market is, to put it blunt, an idiotic decision.
But at the end, it's your money you're hopefully spending, so spend away how you see fit.

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I've owned PC's since 2000. I owned products from all 3 current major tech companies. I've had 3 Nvidia GPU's fail on me, and only one from AMD, and I bought more AMD cards than I did Nvidias.

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But I am smart enough to understand that tech fails, and that limiting myself in that regard would make me an idiot.
Both had their blunders, and you're frankly just overblowing the problem.

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You could probably try cleaning your system. I've never had any GPU from either manufacturer overheat enough to shut down the PC, unless there was a specific cooling problem (which never was), or I did it on purpose.

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I have gone through 2 GPUs and 2 AMD CPUs in 5 to 6 years, encountering the same issues over and over and you say I'm "overblowing the problem"???


I think not. I have more than enough experience to draw that conclusion. I have have had multiple Nvidia GPUs, never had a problem with them. My AMD products, I have had issues with all of them multiple times. I am not about to give AMD another chance, at least not anytime soon.


I know what I am talking about. Also I have two friends who have had similar issues with AMD.

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2 GPUs are enough to make an informed decision?
You're a funny guy.
And a really unlucky one.

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It's enough for me.

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@NeoGamerX
What do you mean noise and heat?
The r9 380 is a very cool card… Mine doesn't go over 70-75C(depending on ambient) at 40% fan speed which is inaudible… fans start to be audible at 55%, like on most GPUs…


and the max absolute safe temperature with no silicon degradation is 95.4C so I'm 20-25C away from it…

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Mine shuts down at 80C and the GPU runs at 50C most of the time.


I had my PC shut down on me multiple times while playing Subnautica (which is having the GPU run at 100% even on low settings for some unknown reason.) and once in late game of Crysis 2 though for the latter the CPU (which was an FX-6300 at the time) was responsible. I only upgraded to this CPU because I wanted the wraith cooler that badly.


But yes my PC runs very loud and heats up my room like an oven in the winter, so much that I have to turn on the ceiling fan.

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My GPU very rarely peaks above 70 degrees, although I did set a much more aggressive curve. It gets a bit louder but I was never really bothered by that. I'd rather keep the machine cooled than quiet and noise it makes is fairly acceptable to me. My CPU is under full load around 55 degrees, but I do make sure I properly went out my PC ever month or two. If it get's gunked up everything runs considerably hotter.

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I only once had heating issues, throttling and restarts but that was due to MB VRMs overheating because of a lousy CPU 4 pin connector somehow shifting a bit creating a short circuit which melted the connector. It was a simple fix though.

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Well, mate when was the last time you changed the thermal paste of your GPU? A friend didn't change his gtx 760 thermal paste for 2 years and it overheated so hard it broke and fragments started appearing… like damn…


Also how good is your case ventilation?


Also, why does your GPU shutdown at 80C? That's not how it is by default, by default it's 105C…

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"Well, mate when was the last time you changed the thermal paste of your GPU?"


Never. I don't want to take the GPU apart and risk breaking it. Not going to bother since I plan to upgrade soon anyway.

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To be frank that could've been your overheating issue. You can't really break it unless you try to. It's a straight forward procedure and a fairly quick job.
Although your GPU should not shutdown at 80C in the first place. Unsafe temperatures for your card are around 90 degrees and it shouldn't shut itself down even then unless it's specifically set to do so.

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Maybe the issues you have aren't connected with the GPU and you could possibly run into the same problem with a replacement too. Common practice is to replace thermal paste every year or 2. You should be doing so on both your CPU and GPU. And I tend to clean my machine every month and I'd recommend you to do the same if you want to keep the PC at its best.

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If you primarily game on your machine, or do any intensive CPU or GPU work, thermal paste can often effectively burn up. It gets crusty and it stops dissipating heat as well as it should. If that's the case with your machine than you should be changing it probably every year.
This advice might sound simple for the issue, but it often is. I once managed to drop full load temps of my system by a huge 20 degrees with a proper full cleaning and replacing the termal paste.

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Well we don't know(or at least afaik) the specs of the gtx/rtx 2050, so there is no way currently to tell, but man, a gtx 1060 is not a good upgrade at all… you want gtx 1070 Performance at the very worst to make the upgrade worth it, gtx 1080 Performance ideally.


Wait for 7nm GPUs.

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1060 6gb for 250 bucks because of the extra 2 gb of vram :)

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But on Amazon they sell new RX 580 8GB with OC for 189$

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Did you read the blog?


"Oh and please do not suggest AMD. I am done with them."

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I know but this was for Manumunguia not to you.

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