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CPU Core Details

CPU Codename Toliman Shanghai
MoBo Socket Socket AM2+ Socket Fr2
Notebook CPU no no
Release Date 21 Oct 2008 13 Nov 2008
CPU Link GD Link GD Link

CPU Technical Specifications

CPU Cores 3 4
CPU Threads 3 -
Clock Speed 2.5 GHz 2.5 GHz
Turbo Frequency - -
System Bus - 1000 MHz
Max TDP 95 W 75 W
Lithography 65 nm 45 nm
Bit Width 64 Bit -
Voltage Range - 1.35 V KB
Max Temperature 71°C 55°C
Virtualization Technology no yes

CPU Cache and Memory

L1 Cache Size 384 KB 128 KB
L1 Cache Count - 4
L2 Cache Size 1536 KB 512 KB
L2 Cache Count - 4
L2 Cache Speed - 2500 MHz
L3 Cache Size 2 MB 6144 MB
Memory Types
Memory Channels 2 -
ECC Memory Support no no

CPU Graphics

Integrated Graphics no no
Base GPU Frequency - -
Max GPU Frequency - -
DirectX - -
Displays Supported - -

CPU Mini Review

Mini Review Phenom 8850B Triple-Core is a business-class processor based on the 65nm, K10 architecture. <br/> <br/> It offers 3 Physical Cores (3 Logical), clocked at 2.5GHz and 2MB of L3 Cache. <br/> Among its many features, <b>Virtualization</b> is activated. <br/> <br/> The processor DOES NOT integrate any graphics. and has a rated board TDP of 95W. <br/> <br/> It offers average performance. This means it will become a bottleneck in some demanding applications. Opteron is AMD's x86 server and workstation processor line, and was the first processor which supported the AMD64 instruction set architecture (known generically as x86-64). It was released on April 22, 2003 with the SledgeHammer core (K8) and was intended to compete in the server and workstation markets, particularly in the same segment as the Intel Xeon processor. Processors based on the AMD K10 microarchitecture (codenamed Barcelona) were announced on September 10, 2007 featuring a new quad-core configuration. The most-recently released Opteron CPUs are the Piledriver-based Opteron 4300 and 6300 series processors, codenamed "Seoul" and "Abu Dhabi" respectively.

Gaming Performance Comparison

In terms of overall gaming performance, the AMD Phenom 8850B Triple-Core is marginally better than the AMD Opteron 8380 when it comes to running the latest games. This also means it will be less likely to bottleneck more powerful GPUs, allowing them to achieve more of their gaming performance potential.

Both the Phenom 8850B Triple-Core and the Opteron 8380 were released at the same time, so are likely to be quite similar.

The 4 has 1 more core than the Phenom 8850B Triple-Core. { With 4 cores, the 4 is much less likely to struggle with the latest games, or bottleneck high-end graphics cards when running them.

More important for gaming than the number of cores and threads is the clock rate. Problematically, unless the two CPUs are from the same family, this can only serve as a general guide and nothing like an exact comparison, because the clock cycles per instruction (CPI) will vary so much.

The Phenom 8850B Triple-Core and Opteron 8380 are not from the same family of CPUs, so their clock speeds are by no means directly comparable. Bear in mind, then, that while the Phenom 8850B Triple-Core and the Opteron 8380 both have the same clock frequency, this is by no means an indicator that the two CPUs will provide the same level of performance. As such, we need to look elsewhere for more reliable comparisons.

Aside from the clock rate, the next-most important CPU features for PC game performance are L2 and L3 cache size. Faster than RAM, the more cache available, the more data that can be stored for lightning-fast retrieval. L1 Cache is not usually an issue anymore for gaming, with most high-end CPUs eking out about the same L1 performance, and L2 is more important than L3 - but L3 is still important if you want to reach the highest levels of performance. Bear in mind that although it is better to have a larger cache, the larger it is, the higher the latency, so a balance has to be struck.

The <span class='gpu1Mention'>Phenom 8850B Triple-Core</span> has a 1024 KB bigger L2 cache than the <span class='gpu2Mention'>Opteron 8380</span>, but on the other hand, it is the <span class='gpu2Mention'>Opteron 8380</span> that has a 6142 MB bigger L3 cache than the <span class='gpu1Mention'>Phenom 8850B Triple-Core</span>. The L3 size of the <span class='gpu1Mention'>Phenom 8850B Triple-Core</span> is probably low enough to greatly inhibit its gaming performance in comparison to the <span class='gpu2Mention'>Opteron 8380</span>.

The maximum Thermal Design Power is the power in Watts that the CPU will consume in the worst case scenario. The lithography is the semiconductor manufacturing technology being used to create the CPU - the smaller this is, the more transistors that can be fit into the CPU, and the closer the connections. For both the lithography and the TDP, it is the lower the better, because a lower number means a lower amount of power is necessary to run the CPU, and consequently a lower amount of heat is produced.