Laptop announced date: 5th September 2019
Last reviewed: 24th August 2020
Today's gaming laptop review, for the Lenovo Legion 5i 17 i7-9750H GTX 1650 Mobile 16GB RAM 256GB M.2, will be taking a good look at how well its price compares to the hardware we find inside it. We will also have a look at the type of gaming performance it gets when running today’s more demanding games and help you judge if this is a gaming laptop that is worth your cash.
Is the Lenovo Legion 5i 17 i7-9750H GTX 1650 Mobile 16GB RAM 256GB M.2 good as a gaming laptop? Not for gaming
Processor - Modern AAA 2020 gaming with the Core i7-9750H 6-Core 2.6GHz processor is no problem. As it meets game requirements of today it will likely hold its own against future release titles as well, this is an excellent CPU for a gaming laptop. AAA games often need extra cores to run smoothly and minimise bottleneck. This laptop processor has 6 cores, which is excellent for modern gaming.
Graphics Card - The GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile graphics card is not a gamers graphics solution for 2020. If some games run it will certainly struggle to run the latest releases. Indy titles and casual gaming might be ok though. Your GPU VRAM is important in modern gaming. The laptop’s GPU here has 4GB of VRAM which is just OK by todays game requirements. There are laptop GPU solutions with much more VRAM, which would be better if you are looking for a gaming laptop right now.
System Memory - The 16GB RAM found in this machine is considered an excellent 2020 amount for modern AAA titles and a solid gaming machine.
Screen Size - We were looking for 17 inch panels as the gaming standard for top tier gaming laptops. You can certainly game on smaller laptops but we have found that often the extra physical space helps provide 2020 games with the chance to read and make out in game menus and details that smaller panels can struggle to display clearly. So this 17.3" panel is an excellent gaming laptop choice for screen size.
Refresh Rate - If you are focused on a gaming laptop then ideally you want a refresh rate of 120Hz or 144Hz or more. A lot of laptops come with 60Hz and this will stop your games being able to run in more than 60 Frames per second. Even if you hardware is capable of far more frames per second. The top panel refresh rate for this laptop is 60Hz which is ok but not really your first choice, if you want a good gaming laptop. Look for panels that we mark as good or excellent if you think this laptop hardware can get higher than 60FPS on most modern games.
One of the most important components to a gamer for this laptop is getting it’s graphics card right. We will be taking a look at the sort of price to performance ratio the laptop hardware has and in particular help us know if how well the graphics card can run Cyberpunk 2077 at 1080p ultra settings. Now this comes with the GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile installed as the mobile graphics card, and at the moment it is capable of running 318 games at their minimum graphics system specs and then running 0 recommended specs of today’s top 500 most demanding games.
When we factor in all variations of hardware and prices that the Legion 5i 17 laptop comes with, it gets very difficult to understand what value each permutation of this laptop will offer. To help us compare laptops based on their direct gaming value and capabilities, we defined a price to performance rating and allocated it to every laptop we review. Because as you have no doubt discovered during your research, it is very difficult to compare laptops for value against all other laptops. Even within their own model range. As soon as you adjust a single component and the laptop price shifts, what has that done to the gaming value of your laptop and is it still ok value for money? So we use a P2P rating to standardise the way we can look at all laptops. Of course laptops have tonnes of other values that are breathed into them when they are designed and they are not just about price to performance. But this is certainly a good way for us to help see the bigger picture, especially for a gaming laptop.
We review performance and allocate a P2P rating out of 10 that will adjust over time as the prices for hardware adjust. This laptop is currently given a 8.8 for P2P. There look to be a number of Legion 5i 17 versions of this laptop and currently this hardware configuration sits at 2nd in the Price to Performance order. Obviously scoring towards the 1st position represents the better value laptop from a purely gaming performance and price tag perspective.
Show Laptop Specifications
|Processor||Core i7-9750H 6-Core 2.6GHz|
|Graphics Card||GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile|
|RAM||16GB DDR4 2666MHz|
17.3" 1920x1080 (1080p)
Available refresh rates: 60Hz
Lenovo Legion 5i 17 i7-9750H GTX 1650 Mobile 16GB RAM 256GB M.2 model range price to performance comparison table
|i7-10750H GTX 1660 Ti 16GB RAM 512GB M.2||$1399.99||11%|
|i7-9750H GTX 1650 Mobile 16GB RAM 256GB M.2||$1,349.00||0%|
Now how does this laptop match to the top laptop for P2P today? The top laptop for P2P is the ASUS TUF A15 R7 4800H GTX 1660 Ti 16GB RAM 512GB M.2 and has a price of $985.33. This Lenovo Legion 5i 17 i7-9750H GTX 1650 Mobile 16GB RAM 256GB M.2 laptop is currently 74% worse rating when comparing price to performance. Second on the Price to Performance laptop ranking at the moment is the Acer Nitro 5 2020 R5 4600H GTX 1650 Mobile 16GB RAM 512GB M.2 which we have a recorded price of $858.54. If we compare our laptop to this one then our laptop returns with 62% worse performance/ price rating figure than it.
One of the key components in a laptop is of course its CPU. So let's see if our Legion 5i 17 laptop compares favourably when placed against the laptop that has one of the most powerful CPU’s around today. This comparison will at least help us know how this laptop performs against the top end CPU laptop and we can then see the amount of money we might have to pay to get that sort of laptop. The ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 R9 4900HS RTX 2060 Mobile 16GB RAM 1.0TB M.2 1440p is today’s best performer in the laptop CPU department. It has a Ryzen 9 4900HS 8-Core 3.0GHz processor in it, which currently has 43% better performance than our laptop’s Core i7-9750H 6-Core 2.6GHz.
A quick review of the number of games our laptop processor can run at recommended requirements is 466, taken from the top 500 most demanding games today. For min cpu specs this figure for number of games it can run is 499.
Today’s games are getting more demanding so let's see how our gaming laptop performs against their recommended cpu system requirements. First off we have the Assassins Creed: Valhalla which currently our Core i7-9750H 6-Core 2.6GHz is 24% better next let's see how well it runs against Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War. We can see it is 26% better. Ok finally lets see it against Cyberpunk 2077. Here our laptop is 24% better.
Looking for a new gaming laptop often leads us quickly to consider the sort of performance the mobile graphics card can deliver. Mobile graphics cards are often underpowered versions of their desktop equivalent, but still often very capable. To gauge the performance ability in this graphics department we compare our laptop to a GPU focused laptop that is around at the moment, to help provide us with a good graphics performance metric and comparison. A good laptop to compare against, that is GPU focused, would be the MSI GT76 Titan i9-10900K RTX 2080 64GB RAM 2.0TB M.2 4K. This showcases one of the laptops for the current cheapest price, while still housing one of the most powerful laptop GPUs. It comes with a GeForce RTX 2080 Super 8GB graphics card slotted inside it, which can deliver 157% better performance when compared to our GPU, GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile from our review laptop.
A snapshot today of performance for our Graphics Card, we can currently see it beating 0 of the 500 most demanding games available right now. This is considering their recommended system requirements. For a the top 500 Minimum system specs this is 318 games.
Lets take a look and see how well our GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile compares against today’s most popular games. Against the recommended graphics specs for Cyberpunk 2077 our laptop is 40% worse, and compared to Assassins Creed: Valhalla it is 40% worse , where as against Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War it delivers 50% worse performance.
There is a lot of talk about getting 4K capable monitors and our review laptop has a 1080p native resolution, and a physical 17.3" panel. Lets explore if it would be better for you to grab a laptop with a 4K screen rather than the 1080p offered here? 4K laptops would likely come with a 60 FPS cap on games, set by the laptop screen’s 60Hz refresh rate. So regardless of what the hardware is capable of in the 4K laptop they couldn't push their FPS beyond that screen refresh rate. Now AAA games today when played at Ultra graphics settings and a 4K resolution likely don't have hardware capable of 60 FPS anyway. With a bigger refresh rate helping your FPS this Lenovo Legion 5i 17 i7-9750H GTX 1650 Mobile 16GB RAM 256GB M.2 has 60Hz screen refresh rate variants available.
So lowering a game’s screen resolution down to 1080p or 1440p during your gaming of modern AAA games will help get more frames per second. But in doing so, by down scaling the game resolution will then make the game look blurry on a native 4K laptop panel. So the purpose of getting a 4K laptop monitor for gaming maybe lost at this point. If the new 4K laptop has the performance to play modern games at 4K resolution, then perhaps the laptop’s 15 or 17 inch screen isnt enough to fully enjoy the high pixel count? So if you have or can get a desktop monitor that delivers more than the 60Hz frame rate limiter, for that gaming experience then you can keep your laptop mobile and still enjoy high end gaming.
However, you could be after watching 4K streaming content on your laptop, while on the move. Then perhaps the 17inch laptop screen and 4K resolution is going to net a more enjoyable experience than a 1080p alternative.
At the moment our advice would be, stick to the 1080p laptop panels for now. Your laptop remains portable and 4K laptop’s just aren't quite there yet. The 4K needs to be a no brainer but at the moment you will still have to lower resolution in game to get playable but sub par visuals that still can't raise above 60FPS.
Today’s best priced 1440p gaming monitor, to work nicely with our Lenovo Legion 5i 17 i7-9750H GTX 1650 Mobile 16GB RAM 256GB M.2, would be the ASUS ProArt Display PA278QV 27 inch 1440p 75Hz 5ms IPS, which is priced at $294.99 and has a refresh rate of 75Hz. To help provide some further information into this desktop monitor price trends we saw it cost a recorded low of $272.99, which we tracked on 5th Aug 2020.
Today’s most competitive 4K gaming monitor by price is Asus Predator XB273K 27 inch 4K GSYNC IPS 1ms 144Hz and could work well with the Lenovo Legion 5i 17 i7-9750H GTX 1650 Mobile 16GB RAM 256GB M.2 laptop. It is priced at $829.99. It's interesting that even though this is a well priced 4K monitor today, our price tracking shows it has gone up in price by $780 during recent weeks. The cheapest we have tracked this 4k monitor was for the price of $797.05, on 11th Aug 2020.
[Note - check that monitor display connectors are compatible between a monitor and a laptop before purchase]
Possibly a suitable purpose for a 4K laptop would be if you were keen to watch 4K streaming services like Netflix. At which point perhaps it's enough of a selling point for you to consider a 4K laptop?
Save your cash, don't grab a 4K laptop for gaming at the moment. A 1080p is certainly the best top end gaming laptop choice at the moment. There are not many 1440p monitors that we have seen. It could be a disappointing experience if you buy your new 4K laptop, and then for each modern game you pick up be faced with dropping resolution or graphics settings to achieve an ok FPS. Even then we will be seeing a max 60FPS because of the common 60Hz found on the 4K panel.
Of the mice we monitor and price track, today’s top mouse is the Kayinuo M738 Gaming Mouse 3200DPI wired 6 Buttons, priced at $11.99. Over the past couple of weeks this mouse has dropped its price by $38, giving us extra confidence in matching it with today’s laptop as a good purchase. Further to our mouse information, this mouse had a lowest price recorded by us of $11.99 dated on 15th Aug 2020.
|Quality||Mouse||Price (USD)||Check Regional Pricing|
|*||Kayinuo M738 Gaming Mouse 3200DPI wired 6 Buttons||$11.99|
|**||PICTEK Gaming Mouse 7200DPI wired 7 Buttons||$15.99|
|**||Redragon M711 Cobra||$19.99|
|***||Cooler Master MM710||$49.99|
|***||Logitech G502 SE Hero||$58.95|
We price track a number of good value gaming headset and the one that currently stands out is the HyperX Cloud Stinger, which is currently available for $30.99. The lowest price recorded by us so far for the headset is $25.98 recorded at 12th Mar 2020.