Laptop announced date: 28th June 2019
Last reviewed: 26th February 2020
The MSI GF65 Thin i5-9300H GTX 1660 Ti 8GB RAM 512GB M.2 laptop review we are going to do today will look into how its purchase price stacks up against the performance on offer from the hardware housed inside it. We will also be taking a look at today’s more demanding games to see some MSI GF65 Thin i5-9300H GTX 1660 Ti 8GB RAM 512GB M.2 laptop gaming frame rates to help you judge if the value to money ratio is a good deal or not.
Is the MSI GF65 Thin i5-9300H GTX 1660 Ti 8GB RAM 512GB M.2 good as a gaming laptop? Ok
Processor - The Core i5-9300H 4-Core 2.4GHz processor is an OK 2020 CPU, but shortly it will run into issues as new games are released next year. Perhaps a number of Indy titles and casual games will still run ok for the time being. This laptop has 4 processor cores, which can really help towards modern games to avoid processor bottlenecks. This CPU core count is good, considering the modern multithreaded activity games can utilise with today’s hardware.
Graphics Card - This GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6GB Mobile graphics card is a good option for modern 2020 gaming and can run a number of AAA games smoothly. This GPU has 6GB VRAM, which is certainly a good amount for most modern games.
System Memory - The 8GB system memory in this machine is a good gaming amount of RAM for a 2020 laptop.
Screen Size - This laptop’s 15.6" screen is certainly a good size for 2020 gaming on the move. You could go larger, of course, but then the larger you go the less portable a laptop becomes. For gaming laptops that are still portable, we would go for 17 inch gaming laptops.
Refresh Rate - Refresh rates can be hard to see, when the laptop reseller doesn't make it clear. Assume 60Hz if this is the case. Ideally for a gaming laptop you want 120Hz. This means the games you run can get up to 120 frames per second, assuming the hardware inside them is powerful enough to deliver that FPS. The refresh rate caps a games deliverable FPS even if the hardware can deliver more FPS than the Hz. Ok so after those thoughts on refresh rate and its significance to our gaming, the laptop we are looking at here today has a good refresh rate of 120Hz. This would be suitable for advanced gaming up to that refresh rate in terms of FPS
Gamers looking at laptops will be needing to carefully consider the performance of the machine in relation to modern, often demanding, games. So getting the mobile graphics selected correctly is key to identifying the best price-to-performance laptop for you. We will take a look at the hardware and graphics card in this laptop in relation to how well it can deliver frame rates when running modern demanding or popular games like, Cyberpunk 2077 or Watch Dogs Legion. We will consider the laptop when it runs these games in ultra graphics settings while gaming at its native 1080p screen resolution. Now this comes with the GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6GB Mobile installed as the mobile graphics card, and at the moment it is capable of running 492 games at their minimum graphics system specs and then running 352 recommended specs of today’s top 500 most demanding games.
Have you been looking for the best gaming laptop for your buck? Well you have probably encountered what we have, which is that, only certain laptops are normally reviewed and even then the review is often using games that are now getting out of date. So we decided to factor in all permutations of the GF65 Thin model range and compare them against the price adjustments those hardware variations incur when you change a GPU, for example. And so we have created this MSI GF65 Thin i5-9300H GTX 1660 Ti 8GB RAM 512GB M.2 laptop price to performance review with a P2P rating to help standardise our comparisons.
With a P2P rating currently of 0 out of 10 for the MSI GF65 Thin i5-9300H GTX 1660 Ti 8GB RAM 512GB M.2. This relative value will change as hardware costs and their performance change over time for laptops. With these hardware components the MSI GF65 Thin i5-9300H GTX 1660 Ti 8GB RAM 512GB M.2 laptop is placed at 7th position within the GF65 Thin range, when put into the price to performance order. Those laptops closer to the number 1 position of this list are the better value propositions today.
Show Laptop Specifications
|Processor||Core i5-9300H 4-Core 2.4GHz|
|Graphics Card||GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6GB Mobile|
|RAM||8GB DDR4 2666MHz|
15.6" 1920x1080 (1080p)
Available refresh rates: 120Hz
MSI GF65 Thin i5-9300H GTX 1660 Ti 8GB RAM 512GB M.2 model range price to performance comparison table
|i7-9750H GTX 1660 Ti 16GB RAM 512GB M.2||$1,049.00||100%|
|i7-9750H GTX 1660 Ti 16GB RAM 512GB M.2||$1,169.99||100%|
|i7-9750H RTX 2060 Mobile 16GB RAM 512GB M.2||$1,199.00||100%|
|i7-9750H RTX 2060 Mobile 8GB RAM 512GB M.2||$1,129.00||100%|
|i5-9300H RTX 2060 Mobile 8GB RAM 512GB M.2||$997.00||100%|
|i5-9300H GTX 1660 Ti 8GB RAM 256GB M.2||$999.00||100%|
|i5-9300H GTX 1660 Ti 8GB RAM 512GB M.2||Price Unknown|
|i5-9300H GTX 1660 Ti 8GB RAM 256GB M.2||Price Unknown|
The best performing laptop for Price to Performance is currently the ASUS TUF A15 R7 4800H GTX 1660 Ti 16GB RAM 512GB M.2 laptop. So if we compare this MSI GF65 Thin i5-9300H GTX 1660 Ti 8GB RAM 512GB M.2 laptop to that laptop we can see that it performs 100% worse on Price to Performance rating. Out of interest, the top P2P laptop currently has a recorded price of $986.99. Another great model is the Acer Nitro 5 2020 R5 4600H GTX 1650 Mobile 16GB RAM 512GB M.2, which we have priced at $858.54. Our GF65 Thin laptop is 100% worse on Price to Performance.
If you are looking for a strong CPU focused laptop then let's compare this GF65 Thin laptop with the top CPU performance focused laptop available today and see how it compares. We have chosen our comparison CPU focused laptop today as the ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 R9 4900HS RTX 2060 Mobile 16GB RAM 1.0TB M.2 1440p, which comes armed with the Ryzen 9 4900HS 8-Core 3.0GHz laptop CPU. This top tier CPU is currently delivering 131% better performance when benched against our own review laptop’s Core i5-9300H 4-Core 2.4GHz.
A quick review of the number of games our laptop processor can run at recommended requirements is 0, taken from the top 500 most demanding games today. For min cpu specs this figure for number of games it can run is 425.
Recommended processor requirements for modern games increase all the time, so we thought we would compare the performance of our laptop CPU to some popular games of today. First off there is Watch Dogs Legion and our laptop CPU delivers 22% worse performance compared to that game’s requirement. Next we have Assassins Creed: Valhalla in which we see our laptop processor has 22% worse performance compared to the game's CPU specs. And then there is 22% worse performance when we put our laptop cpu against Cyberpunk 2077 recommended specs.
You will likely be considering buying a graphics and pixel crunching laptop perhaps to meet the latest and future game requirements. We will therefore be wondering how our GF65 Thin review laptop competes against other GPU centric laptops in the gaming laptop market. To give us a bit of insight we will compare our laptop with a leading GPU performance laptop and see how its graphics capability performs against it. Lets grab a graphics focused laptop for comparison then. We have chosen the MSI GT76 Titan i9-10900K RTX 2080 64GB RAM 2.0TB M.2 4K laptop for its graphical performance. This big hitting GPU laptop comes with a GeForce RTX 2080 Super 8GB video card in it that performs 67% better if we bench it against our laptop’s GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6GB Mobile graphics hardware.
Our laptop GPU beats 352 games recommended system requirements when looking at today’s top 500 most demanding games. This number changes to 492 games if we compare to the top 500 most demanding games for minimum system requirements.
When compared to the recommended graphics requirements of the most popular games today, like Cyberpunk 2077 our laptop GPU is 10% better in performance. Compared to Watch Dogs Legion our laptop graphics performance is 10% better.
With 4K monitors being ever present and often talked about in the same breath as the term ‘future proof’, its always worth exploring the idea that you should be looking at 4K instead of this 1080p laptop. Our MSI GF65 Thin i5-9300H GTX 1660 Ti 8GB RAM 512GB M.2’s physical 15.6" panel delivers 1920 pixels across its width and 1080 pixels tall. A 4K panel laptop is often restricted to 60Hz. This means that even if you did have the hardware inside your laptop to run a game at 4K, you wouldnt be able to get more than 60 FPS. Most laptop hardware, and desktop hardware for that matter, is not capable of 4K ultra graphics on modern games. With higher the better refresh rates for your laptop monitor, this particular MSI GF65 Thin i5-9300H GTX 1660 Ti 8GB RAM 512GB M.2 laptop is available in 120Hz variety.
So a quick lowering of a AAA game’s screen resolution, from a native 4K laptop panel down to either 1080p or perhaps 1440p would increase the frame rate. And thus improve the stability of your gameplay. But a laptop display panel has a fixed number of pixels. Moving away from that exact number of pixels in a game lowers the definition quality of the graphics in the game. Making the experience sub par and if you do this often, then this seriously puts into question your choice for a 4K gaming laptop. If the new 4K laptop has the performance to play modern games at 4K resolution, then perhaps the laptop’s 15 or 17 inch screen isnt enough to fully enjoy the high pixel count? So if you have or can get a desktop monitor that delivers more than the 60Hz frame rate limiter, for that gaming experience then you can keep your laptop mobile and still enjoy high end gaming.
The primary 4K use would most likely be streaming movie and TV content at that resolution, assuming you have access to these services in 4K. At which point perhaps its enough of a selling point for you to consider a 4K laptop..
We think don't spend your extra cash on getting a 4K laptop to game on, as it's likely to feel disappointing to buy a super shiny new 4K laptop, then have to lower the resolution while playing your games, delivering a blurry in-game experience, and only getting up to a maximum 60FPS due to the usual 60Hz 4K panel restriction.
Here is today’s best priced 1440p gaming monitor that could accompany the MSI GF65 Thin i5-9300H GTX 1660 Ti 8GB RAM 512GB M.2, ASUS ProArt Display PA278QV 27 inch 1440p 75Hz 5ms IPS that is currently priced at $294.99. We like to review tracked prices for our suggested hardware and this 1440p monitor is no different. We spotted its lowest price, recorded on 5th Aug 2020, where it cost $272.99.
Asus Predator XB273K 27 inch 4K GSYNC IPS 1ms 144Hz is a good value, high performing desktop display that might work well with this laptop. It's currently priced up at $829.99 and also has a 144Hz refresh rate. It's interesting that even though this is a well priced 4K monitor today, our price tracking shows it has gone up in price by $799 during recent weeks. Reviewing tracked prices for our suggested 4k monitor, its lowest price was recorded on 11th Aug 2020, where we spotted it for $797.05.
[Note - check that monitor display connectors are compatible between a monitor and a laptop before purchase]
If you are looking to view 4K streaming content, while keeping yourself mobile with your laptop, then maybe a 4K resolution panel would be a better experience than the normal 1080p. In general, we think it's probably not worth the extra money for any visual gains you might not spot, without a direct comparison, especially if you are thinking to game on your laptop as well.
Paying extra for 4K gaming in a laptop is not really a good investment of your cash at the moment. We would put our extra cash in to a 1080p with better graphics card or maybe a nice mouse or headset. Because with the 4K laptop you may be sad when having to drop your favourite modern games screen resolution to get an ok frame rate. Or perhaps lowering the graphics setting to increase 4K FPS up to a stable and playable amount, only to hit a 60FPS ceiling due to the 60Hz 4K panel limit.
Of the mice we monitor and price track, today’s top mouse is the Kayinuo M738 Gaming Mouse 3200DPI wired 6 Buttons, priced at $11.99. This mouse has also dropped its price by $19 during the past two weeks, which is a solid reason for us to select it with this laptop. Another point of interest was that we saw this mouse priced at $11.99, which we tracked on 15th Aug 2020.
|Quality||Mouse||Price (USD)||Check Regional Pricing|
|*||Kayinuo M738 Gaming Mouse 3200DPI wired 6 Buttons||$11.99|
|**||PICTEK Gaming Mouse 7200DPI wired 7 Buttons||$16.99|
|**||Redragon M711 Cobra||$19.99|
|***||Cooler Master MM710||$44.99|
|***||Logitech G502 SE Hero||$55.99|
A good value gaming headset available at the moment, one that should go well with the MSI GF65 Thin i5-9300H GTX 1660 Ti 8GB RAM 512GB M.2 is, HyperX Cloud Stinger with a price of $47.14. Checking our records our lowest tracked price for this headset was on 12th Mar 2020 which had it priced at $25.98.