Laptop announced date: 28th June 2019
Last reviewed: 26th February 2020
Gaming laptops are often expensive when compared to similar specced desktops. So today’s MSI GF65 Thin i7-9750H RTX 2060 Mobile 16GB RAM 512GB M.2 laptop review will be focusing on helping us demystify it’s performance capability in relation to its price. We will take a look at some of the latest demanding games to see the types of FPS returns we could expect to see for this mobile gaming price point.
Is the MSI GF65 Thin i7-9750H RTX 2060 Mobile 16GB RAM 512GB M.2 good as a gaming laptop? Good
Processor - This Core i7-9750H 6-Core 2.6GHz processor in the laptop is an excellent gaming CPU choice for 2020 gaming. This CPU comes with 6 cores, which is excellent providing it extra resource to chew through game processing when required.
Graphics Card - A good graphics card for gamers, capable of running titles during this 2020 gaming year. This GPU has 6GB VRAM, which is a good amount for AAA gaming but you could find other modern GPU’s that provide more.
System Memory - The system memory (16GB) we find in this gaming laptop can meet modern AAA game requirements. This amount of RAM is an excellent 2020 gaming laptop choice, that will help meet game requirements now and into the future.
Screen Size - This laptop comes with a good screen size (15.6") which is certainly capable of viewing and playing 2020 titles. Larger screens can offer better in-game views, as often game HUDs and menus can take up a fair amount of a smaller laptop screen space and leave you squinting at the detail or text. We would probably prefer the larger 17 inch size laptop for an ideal gamers laptop, but perhaps this smaller size would tick your requirement for smaller and more portable.
Refresh Rate - If you are focused on a gaming laptop then ideally you want a refresh rate of 120Hz or 144Hz or more. A lot of laptops come with 60Hz and this will stop your games being able to run in more than 60 Frames per second. Even if you hardware is capable of far more frames per second. With the 120Hz laptop screen available on this laptop this would make for a good refresh rate and a good gaming laptop screen.
One of the most important components to a gamer for this laptop is getting it’s graphics card right. We will be taking a look at the sort of price to performance ratio the laptop hardware has and in particular help us know if how well the graphics card can run Cyberpunk 2077 at 1080p ultra settings. The GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile card that's powering the MSI GF65 Thin i7-9750H RTX 2060 Mobile 16GB RAM 512GB M.2 laptop, when compared to today’s top 500 most demanding games, can run 493 at min system specs and will run 364 games when comparing to their increased recommended system requirements.
As you have probably discovered during your research into buying your next gaming laptop, getting an up-to-date value assessment that enables you to compare a laptop’s hardware performance against today’s games is tricky. And especially so, when we factor in all variations of hardware and prices that the GF65 Thin comes with. What we have done in this MSI GF65 Thin i7-9750H RTX 2060 Mobile 16GB RAM 512GB M.2 laptop review is give a price to performance rating to help standardise our comparisons.
This laptop gets a 10 for P2P. With these hardware components the MSI GF65 Thin i7-9750H RTX 2060 Mobile 16GB RAM 512GB M.2 laptop is placed at 3rd position within the GF65 Thin range, when put into the price to performance order. Those laptops closer to the number 1 position of this list are the better value propositions today.
Show Laptop Specifications
|Processor||Core i7-9750H 6-Core 2.6GHz|
|Graphics Card||GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile|
|RAM||16GB DDR4 2666MHz|
15.6" 1920x1080 (1080p)
Available refresh rates: 120Hz
MSI GF65 Thin i7-9750H RTX 2060 Mobile 16GB RAM 512GB M.2 model range price to performance comparison table
|i7-9750H GTX 1660 Ti 16GB RAM 512GB M.2||$1,049.00||12%|
|i7-9750H GTX 1660 Ti 16GB RAM 512GB M.2||$1,169.99||1%|
|i7-9750H RTX 2060 Mobile 16GB RAM 512GB M.2||$1,199.00||0%|
|i7-9750H RTX 2060 Mobile 8GB RAM 512GB M.2||$1,129.00||20%|
|i5-9300H RTX 2060 Mobile 8GB RAM 512GB M.2||$997.00||25%|
|i5-9300H GTX 1660 Ti 8GB RAM 256GB M.2||$999.00||29%|
|i5-9300H GTX 1660 Ti 8GB RAM 512GB M.2||Price Unknown|
|i5-9300H GTX 1660 Ti 8GB RAM 256GB M.2||Price Unknown|
The best performing laptop for Price to Performance is currently the ASUS TUF A15 R7 4800H GTX 1660 Ti 16GB RAM 512GB M.2 laptop. So if we compare this MSI GF65 Thin i7-9750H RTX 2060 Mobile 16GB RAM 512GB M.2 laptop to that laptop we can see that it performs 34% worse on Price to Performance rating. Out of interest, the top P2P laptop currently has a recorded price of $986.99. Right, now let's look at one more of the top placed Price to Performance models today. Comparing our GF65 Thin laptop against the Acer Nitro 5 2020 R5 4600H GTX 1650 Mobile 16GB RAM 512GB M.2 shows us that our laptop gets 25% worse rating against it for price to performance. The other laptop does currently have a listed price of $858.54 to consider.
To get a good comparison when considering how well this laptop performs in terms of processing power, we will compare it to today’s most powerful CPU focused laptop. This will at least show us what other sorts of processor-centric laptops exist and give us a relative point of laptop processor cost comparison. Selecting todays ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 R9 4900HS RTX 2060 Mobile 16GB RAM 1.0TB M.2 1440p laptop, we will use its mighty Ryzen 9 4900HS 8-Core 3.0GHz to compare against our Core i7-9750H 6-Core 2.6GHz processor from our review laptop. We can see that the top end CPU currently delivers 43% better performance when benched against our own review laptop’s Core i7-9750H 6-Core 2.6GHz.
A quick review of the number of games our laptop processor can run at recommended requirements is 466, taken from the top 500 most demanding games today. For min cpu specs this figure for number of games it can run is 499.
A game’s listed recommended CPU requirements are a good way to compare the performance of our laptop CPU. Lets see today's popular titles up against our laptop processor. First off let's look at Watch Dogs Legion which shows our laptop CPU has 24% better performance than it. How about Assassins Creed: Valhalla, where we see our CPU is 24% better. Then there is 24% better performance when compared against today’s most popular title, Cyberpunk 2077.
One of the key hardware aspects in any laptop is certainly the graphics card. Our GF65 Thin laptop’s GPU solution can be compared against a laptop that has one of the most powerful GPU’s around today, which will give us a relative benchmark. And will help us know how this laptop performs against the top end GPU laptop available today. A top tier graphics focused laptop is the MSI GT76 Titan i9-10900K RTX 2080 64GB RAM 2.0TB M.2 4K. Housing a GeForce RTX 2080 Super 8GB GPU that performs 59% better when compared to our review laptop’s GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile.
Currently 364 games of the top 500 most demanding games today (recommended graphics requirements) can run on the review laptop’s GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile. Or 493 games of the top 500 most demanding for minimum GPU specs can run on it.
Today’s games are getting more demanding so let's see how our gaming laptop performs against their recommended gpu system requirements. First off we have the Watch Dogs Legion which currently our GeForce RTX 2060 Mobile is 16% better next let's see how well it runs against Assassins Creed: Valhalla. We can see it is 16% better. Ok finally lets see it against Cyberpunk 2077. Here our laptop is 16% better.
This laptop’s panel has a physical 15.6" screen that delivers 1920x1080 pixels natively. But should you consider moving from this 1080p laptop and searching for a 4K laptop instead, with the intention of getting better visuals for your games or movies? Today’s 4K laptops normally have a 60Hz screen refresh rate which would mean that should the laptop’s hardware be capable of running a 4K game, it would be restricted to a cap of 60 frames per second. As game system requirements continue to push for more powerful hardware, the components in a laptop, and many desktops as well, are simply not capable of delivering playable frame rates at Ultra graphics settings and a 4K resolution. We can see 120Hz panel refresh rate versions of this laptop are available. The higher the better.
Drop the 4K screen resolution on your AAA games to 1080p to increase the games frame rate to something more playable, and in doing so will make a game look blurry as it wouldn't be displayed in the 4K laptop’s native resolution. And so is there a point in getting a 4K screen laptop at the moment? A 1080p laptop can still have some powerful gaming hardware in it and if it is good enough to run AAA games at larger resolutions like 4K or 1440p then attach it to a desktop monitor while you are at home and stationary. If the desktop monitor is pretty good then it wont have a 60Hz refresh rate limiting its FPS count in game. And is likely to be a whole lot more enjoyable playing on a 24 inch or larger monitor than the more standard 15 or 17inch screen normally found on gaming laptops.
The primary use we can think of is for streaming 4K movie and TV content, assuming you have access to these services. If this is your primary use for the laptop, rather than gaming then it certainly might be worth considering this.
At the moment our advice would be, stick to the 1080p laptop panels for now. Your laptop remains portable and 4K laptop’s just aren't quite there yet. The 4K needs to be a no brainer but at the moment you will still have to lower resolution in game to get playable but sub par visuals that still can't raise above 60FPS.
An example of a well priced 1440p desktop monitor would be the ASUS ProArt Display PA278QV 27 inch 1440p 75Hz 5ms IPS, which has 75Hz and is currently available for $294.99. To help you get a bit more insight into the pricing trends of this 1440p monitor, we have price tracked this monitor and saw its lowest price recorded at $272.99, which was taken on 5th Aug 2020.
Asus Predator XB273K 27 inch 4K GSYNC IPS 1ms 144Hz is a good value, high performing desktop display that might work well with this laptop. It's currently priced up at $829.99 and also has a 144Hz refresh rate. During these recent weeks we have price tracked this 4k monitor and noticed that it has increased its price by $799, so keep an eye out for deals, as this great value monitor might still be found for cheaper. Once we spot a monitor we like we start price tracking it. The lowest tracked price we have for this monitor was recorded on 11th Aug 2020, where it was seen at $797.05.
[Note - check that monitor display connectors are compatible between a monitor and a laptop before purchase]
If you are looking to view 4K streaming content, while keeping yourself mobile with your laptop, then maybe a 4K resolution panel would be a better experience than the normal 1080p. In general, we think it's probably not worth the extra money for any visual gains you might not spot, without a direct comparison, especially if you are thinking to game on your laptop as well.
For now in the laptop space, it looks best to stick with 1080p panels. This way your laptop’s physical size remains practical and portable, 17inch laptops are plenty big enough. And at the moment you will still have to lower game resolutions down from 4K, on the bigger hitting AAA titles, that would then get playable, but sub par visuals and you would still hit the 60FPS cap if your hardware could go beyond 60FPS.
If you are looking for a good value mouse to go with your MSI GF65 Thin i7-9750H RTX 2060 Mobile 16GB RAM 512GB M.2 laptop, then the Kayinuo M738 Gaming Mouse 3200DPI wired 6 Buttons is our favourite today, of those we are price tracking. Currently it’s priced at $11.99. This mouse has also dropped its price by $19 during the past two weeks, which is a solid reason for us to select it with this laptop. Another point of reference for this mouse, is that our lowest recorded price for this mouse was on 15th Aug 2020 where it was costing $11.99.
|Quality||Mouse||Price (USD)||Check Regional Pricing|
|*||Kayinuo M738 Gaming Mouse 3200DPI wired 6 Buttons||$11.99|
|**||PICTEK Gaming Mouse 7200DPI wired 7 Buttons||$16.99|
|**||Redragon M711 Cobra||$19.99|
|***||Cooler Master MM710||$44.99|
|***||Logitech G502 SE Hero||$55.99|
A headset that is well priced at the moment and could accompany the MSI GF65 Thin i7-9750H RTX 2060 Mobile 16GB RAM 512GB M.2 laptop is the HyperX Cloud Stinger. Of the headsets we price track, it is one of the best valued headsets today and currently priced at $47.14. For reference, our lowest tracked price for this headset was on 12th Mar 2020 and it was priced at $25.98.