Star Citizen Creator Explains Why PC Is Best And Consoles Are Dumbed Down

Written by Katie Allen on Mon, Nov 18, 2013 4:30 PM
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Star Citizen creator Chris Roberts has expressed his passion for the PC as a gaming platform in a blog post aimed at shutting down rumours that the crowd-funded RPG would ditch PC in favour of PlayStation 4.

Whilst he did not rule out the possibility of developing the game for next-gen consoles, he described the game as primarily designed for PC, and spoke out against what he considers the "dumbing down" of features and technologies to run on current-gen consoles ...

In a blog post that read something like a love letter to PC as a medium, Roberts wrote that "I just upgraded my office rig to a pair of Titans running in SLI, driving a 4K monitor and a 1440P one. We’re about ready to build the ultimate AMD rig with FOUR R9 290Xs and AMD’s eight core CPU driving a set of 4K monitors in Eyefinity" he wrote in the post.

"You think that’s a good approximation for console, even a next gen one like PS4 or Xbox One?"

He also discussed the fact that the game was recently announced as supporting AMD's new Mantle API, arguing for the efficiency of this API when compared to the inefficiency and abstraction of DirectX which "has only gotten worse as Microsoft becomes less interested in the PC as a gaming platform".

"This is ironically the advantage the next gen consoles have like PS4 and Xbox One – they abstract the low level hardware much less, so what is essentially a mid-level gaming PC of today (which are what the PS4 and Xbox One specs are) punches above its performance weight while Windows and Direct X do a nice job of handicapping the high end PC."

I'm supporting Mantle to push the PC as a gaming platform even further and negate one of the advantages of a console over a PC"

The openness of PC as a platform, as well as the fact that new, affordable components are created year on year allowing people to upgrade their rig were also aspects that Roberts praised as the pinnacles of PC gaming. Xbox One and PlayStation 4 versions would only be considered if Sony and Microsoft "allow us to update the code and data without restrictions and odious time consuming QC procedures [and] allow our community to openly interact with each other across platforms."

Are you pleased to see respected developers like Chris Roberts come out in such strong support of PC as a gaming medium?

Do you agree that games have to be "dumbed down" for consoles?

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21:07 Nov-20-2013

Yep, they are dumbed down...but that's why i like them :P

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02:52 Nov-19-2013

Guy sounds more like a p.c. fanboy and not the smart kind. First off ya I am avoiding mantle like the flu sorry but if you really are against direct x go open g.l. 2nd off you just bought two titans no smart p.c. consumer would do this especially when the 780 ti is cheaper and faster the titan is a waste of cash let alone 2. 3rd of ya screw 4k you can't see the difference between 100p and 4k in motion.

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07:12 Nov-19-2013

  1. OpenGL and dX are nothing compared to Mantle, those are high-end APIs made to run on anything and Mantle is made to accelerate GCN GPUs.
    2. The 780ti probably wasn't out then, and the Titan is also better in stuff other than gaming (GPU accelerated apps)
    3. 4K does look a lot better on a big screen

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07:35 Nov-19-2013

@BoyTitan ...problem of API war is that you cannot just go and choose other one;
game engine renderer is built for specific API, some games support more API platforms but most game run only on DirectX API :Đ
yup Titan is waste of money for gamers, it's mix of GTX&Quadro ;)
can't see difference? motion "feel" depends on refresh rate and/or fps, resolution allows to "put more on the screen", actual size of the screen affects the real size of the pixels, so generally smaller screen + higher resolution = no need for AA :)

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10:30 Nov-19-2013

here we go again... Nvidia vs AMD.... AMD vs Intel... make up your minds already.. one is for one things other one is for other things.. one is better in some things other is better in other things.. that's it..no need to buttfck anyone for saying NVIDIA IS BETTER or AMD IS BETTER.. both are good at their own things..

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10:33 Nov-19-2013

ROFL :Đ

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10:52 Nov-19-2013

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. :D:D:

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11:18 Nov-19-2013

Boytitan seems to be brainless, maybe he lost his brain many times in plants s. zombies, thats why he is talking weird :XD

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17:18 Nov-20-2013

If by brainless you mean pessimistic of any API since well we moved away from them for a reason yes I am very brainless. Things will go to crap if you have DX on the consoles,api on the p.c. from A.M.D and lets say it does well now nvidia is bound to make their own. Or if you mean by pessimistic of 4k It is a proven fact you can't discern the improvements 4k would bring because it is to many pixels for 20/20 vision to see more detail with.

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00:04 Nov-19-2013

I want to see a F### the system game that is just so damn demanding it can`t be made on consoles. Of course it would be financial suicide doing so low end pc:s, pirating, and not sales on consoles. But you always can dream ehhh ?.

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00:57 Nov-19-2013

they're doing that with star citizen the max settings won't run smoothly on any single gpu there currently is so it's pushing manufactures to make higher end gpus (which they probably have already but they want to make profit on every stage of development)

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03:57 Nov-19-2013

we alreay had this case, remeber? cysis 1. after about a year, crytek stated they will not develop something like this again due to the financial fiasco. guess who made the engine for star citizen ;D i'm a bit of a crytek fanboy because they are always leading the path with the cryengine versions. and also because they started off near my hometown ^^

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21:01 Nov-19-2013

Damn totally forgot crysis 1 :D biggest gpu melter to date !. Even best gpu:s from 2007 was really strugling with it.

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23:43 Nov-18-2013

Chris is building a rig with four 290X's? He better have a cooling tower for that PC :)

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23:59 Nov-18-2013

Damn he should have firetruck ready before trying.

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08:18 Nov-19-2013

nah, just bottle of nitrogen do the thing:D:D

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01:48 Nov-19-2013

or some earplugs :P

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08:21 Nov-19-2013

agreed, time to sell aftermarket cooling tower stuff =Đ

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22:02 Nov-18-2013

same as my opinion months ago :P

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21:08 Nov-18-2013

I feel this debate between consoles and PCs is as old as the first computer is. This question falls in line with the famous battle between battlefield and call of duty, each fighting for control of the players and industry. As with each great struggle there emerges an occasional victor, taking the gold crown, may it be for a game, GPU, CPU, console (next gen), you name it.
The gaming industry, as well as the players, need both PCs and consoles to thrive. Each with its perks, each with its drawbacks, but neither can survive alone. We must find what is best for us and take it.

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21:10 Nov-18-2013

:D +1

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19:03 Nov-18-2013

PCs and consoles have different audiences I think, and they both have a place in the gaming industry. I do prefer PCs to consoles as I can't aim with a controller but I wouldn't place PCs above consoles per se.

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19:04 Nov-18-2013

Yep, it's about which suits u best. And the most important things in gaming are games, not gaming platforms.

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19:04 Nov-18-2013

Could not have said it any better myself..

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20:49 Nov-18-2013

+1

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21:11 Nov-18-2013

+1 +1 +1 :p

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02:22 Nov-19-2013

+1 +1 +1 +1 +1 ;)

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07:51 Nov-19-2013

+1 ;)

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19:00 Nov-18-2013

Basically DirectX and MS sucks big time!!!

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18:31 Nov-18-2013

instead of the dumbed down console indirect statement, i caught the sucker-punch-to-microsoft's-gonad statement to be more appealing.. as in directx being handicapping high end pc and microsoft being less interested in pc as platform.. in your face microsoft!

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17:36 Nov-18-2013

I would argue against this and say that consoles are a cheaper alternative when it comes to gaming. But looking at the P$4 and the Xbone; £350 and £425 respectively, this is not the case. If you saved your money for a little while more then you could build or buy a great PC that will most of the games out there at highest settings with good fps.

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17:11 Nov-18-2013

I promise that when i can get a good PC that i don't have to upgrade for 5 years, and that can do splitscreen gaming, and costs under 700€ i will become a PC gamer.

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17:17 Nov-18-2013

alot of decent amd rigs can be built for under 700, and splitscreening is game dependant not system dependant, so this is a very ignorant statement sir, also yeah consoles dont need an upgrade every 5 years (and can't be) because they usually break down before that, well after your warranty expires. PC is known as the gaming master race for a reason.

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17:20 Nov-18-2013

Also PC can be much easily repaired :)

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17:22 Nov-18-2013

Well, show me a PC that cost 700 max. and is guaranteed to run games for at least 5 years, and that i can play games splitscreen with my brother or friends, i will be happily buying it. And BTW my PS3 turns 5 in a month, and hasn't shown a sign of breaking down, and one of my friend is still playing with his 2006 launch PS3.

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17:25 Nov-18-2013

Agree with the PS3 comment. Tylon, no offense, but that console comment that they break down before 5 years is hogwash. My 7 year old ps3 can still play games, and it's in great shape.

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17:34 Nov-18-2013

That actually looks great for the price, but can i splitscreen with it?

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17:44 Nov-18-2013

Fudgehog, the problem with that is not all PC games support split screen, but the hardware is powerful, and should handle splitscreen. You should consider getting a 1080p monitor, because I tried hooking a pc up to my 1080p tv, and it was tough.

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17:57 Nov-18-2013

Well actually if i would game with a PC i would anyways connect it to my 1080p TV. But i think i'm going with PS4, since i want that simplicity that consoles have.

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17:59 Nov-18-2013

No problem Fudge, I understand. The PS4 is a fine console, and I'm considering owning one myself for those exclusives.

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11:02 Nov-19-2013

my rig was under 700€...

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20:40 Nov-20-2013

My rig literally is £700 With pretty decent specs too; I5 4670k, MSI r9 270x gaming edition, with 8gb ram 1600mhz. Far better then the linked AMD rig shown above ^

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17:05 Nov-18-2013

I love the PC and its technological advantages to the console, but I also love the console and its exclusives and simple gaming. Roberts told what we've known already, and I respect his words. I still believe that this "Glorious PC Master Race" crap is a bunch of hoopla.

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18:39 Nov-18-2013

1+ :)

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16:48 Nov-18-2013

Chris Roberts - I like this man... The greatest injustice of the seventh gen games was the technical sacrifices made just for the sake of consoles...

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16:43 Nov-18-2013

The truth is out. Come and read it.

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16:35 Nov-18-2013

Anyone who supports PC gaming in whole gets my respect and love as I see too many console fanboys saying "Console r de best". Lol.

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