Sony Reveals PlayStation 4 Pro 4K Console And Show Mass Effect Andromeda In 4K

Written by Jon Sutton on Wed, Sep 7, 2016 8:54 PM
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Well, that was a little bit boring. Just as expected the PlayStation 4 Slim was announced at the PlayStation Meeting, before Sony went headfirst into the PlayStation 4 Pro, the official name for PS4 Neo. It was touted as a 4K console with HDR capabilities, and Sony said a number of first and third-party titles will be getting patched to support it.

As for the innards, Sony remained fairly tight lipped. The PlayStation 4 Pro has double the GPU power and makes use of AMD Polaris architecture advancements.

The troubling bit is, not once did Sony specifically any game was running at native 4K resolution. Mark Cerny said it was phenomenally close, but it looks like we have an upscale job on our hands. If you’re one of the 99% of people who don’t have a 4K HDR TV, then the 1080p versions of games are also going to see increased fidelity and antialiasing improvements via patches. It was tricky to see on a blurry stream but I couldn’t see much of a difference in truth. Insomniac’s Spider Man game was on show and that appeared to have a very poor frame rate. Also shown running on PS4 Pro was Watch Dogs 2, For Honor and the ever impressive Horizon: Zero Dawn.

We then had a couple of publisher big dogs take to the stage and show off COD: Infinite Warfare at supposed 4K / 60 frames per second and a new trailer for Mass Effect Andromeda. Both looked mighty fine, I have to admit.

One of the biggest benefits seems to be for PlayStation VR. A game called Farsight was shown and Cerny claimed the pixel count had been doubled over the normal PS4 version, leading to a much more detailed image. The benefits for PSVR seem a lot more tangible than 4K upscaling, although the value proposition of PSVR against the competition dissipates when you factor in a new console purchase.

And for the all important price - PS4 Pro will retail for $399 / £349, while the PS4 Slim will be $299 / £269. The PS4 Slim hits next week on September 15th and the PS4 Pro is with us November 10th. And that was just about it. No Rockstar, so boo, but we did at least get a few new peeks at some upcoming titles.

What do you make of the announcements, interested in buying either of these consoles? 

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17:56 Sep-08-2016

my network could handle this video only on 360p :D

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14:03 Sep-09-2016

haha, mine too , and i have to wait like 5 minutes to Watch it all without interruption :'D

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10:50 Sep-08-2016

It's native 4k or upscaled 4k?

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12:26 Sep-08-2016

Mostly upscaled with a handful of weaker titles offering native 4K or 4K at low graphical settings.
It's only 2x as powerful as the original PS4 and yet 4K required 4x the GPU power. You do the math :)

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12:51 Sep-08-2016

you are just looking at TFLOPs.
TFLOPs are just a measurement of raw compute(calculating) performance, and is calculated like this: (Core count core clock speeds 2) and does NOT indicate gaming performance almost at all. It also does NOT indicate the TMUs, ROPs, ACEs, Tesselation engines, Bandwidth, memory type and various other compute units, which do affect gaming performance.

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12:52 Sep-08-2016

What the PS4 PRO has is Polaris, which has much better tesselation engines than the GCN 1.0 GPU in the PS4 original, much better ACEs, 15% better shader performance per clock, a better branch predictor which allows for much better optimization and less miss prediction, which improves performance as well, much better power efficiency and lower latency cache and Vram access and delta color compression.

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14:00 Sep-08-2016

yeah its quite common knowledge that a 480 is significantly stronger a 7870. Specifically mine got exactly double the graphics score in 3dmark11 than my previous hd 7950 (which still outperforms a 7870 comfortably)

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14:01 Sep-08-2016

still 30 fps if its upscaling the native res of ps4 ? i dont understand this

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14:13 Sep-08-2016

and what about scorpio
is it gonna output native 4k or upscaled 4k

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14:40 Sep-08-2016

@Psychoman I know you like arguing, but facts are facts. PS4P is not gonna offer native 4K for the most part and that's the end of that story. Numbers and fractional gains in various performance charts mean nothing if the "4K console" isn't delivering the bleedin' 4K!
Also consider the fact that in the PC world we don't really even call a PC a "4K gaming PC" if it can't pull our golden 60fps. "4K capable" - different story. Even a GTX 960 is "4K capable" in certain scenarios... :)

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17:42 Sep-08-2016

I never said that it will, I just said that you were purely comparing TFlops, which is wrong.

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18:59 Sep-08-2016

I did not mention TFLOPs anywhere in my comments, nor did I imply a comparison in computational performance anywhere. However from the sources we have so far it does look like the "2x more powerful" is the correct figure if they can finally kinda do 1080p60 without changing the settings of the games.

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20:11 Sep-08-2016

yes, but you said that it is ONLY 2x times as powerful, which is ONLY TFLOPs wise, otherwise it falls to about 2.7-3.0x times faster.

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08:00 Sep-08-2016

I was going to purchase this the instant it comes available to take full advantage of my UHD TV but thanks to the PS4 Pro NOT supporting UHD movies, I'll pass...
The movies are quite expensive so I don't mind the wait, maybe I'll get it if (and when) the upcoming Gran Turismo Sport supports UHD (I have pre-ordered the Collector's Edition) :D

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10:18 Sep-08-2016

4k its till c'mon... 1080p movies are great still happy when watch those when available :D

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12:51 Sep-08-2016

It supports 4K on streaming services like Netflix etc., just not 4K blu-ray playback... Which is a shame.

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16:57 Sep-08-2016

Which I can already watch from my PC (not to mention directly from my TV) :D

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17:06 Sep-08-2016

Same xD

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06:32 Sep-08-2016

Bioware continues their rapid fall from grace apparently. Not surprisingly really, after all the people who've left. Hard to believe they were known for and made the best in the genre.

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06:33 Sep-08-2016

And this PS Pro's a joke. It'll not play in 4K, though they'll do everything they can to convince people that it can.

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09:59 Sep-08-2016

Well PS 4 isn't actually 1080p in some games either the games are rendered in lower resolution then been upscaled.

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07:03 Sep-08-2016

Bioware doesn't exist anymore. After EA bought them, they called a number of studio after their name just to fool the consumer.

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07:20 Sep-08-2016

While they aren't exactly the same studio after the EA buyout, I think that they still release some decent games, and at the very least the expansions for Star Wars: The Old Republic are really good as of late. I'm not giving out hope for them yet.

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06:28 Sep-08-2016

I had my doubt when I heard that PS4 Pro can do 4K/60FPS. (After some Googling) It just upscaled to 4K not native 4K. So... Ya, PC still win (Applies to Godly PC only).

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04:22 Sep-08-2016

I come here for the ME:A, not for the PS4-Pro-Whatever news :D

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04:22 Sep-08-2016

And it's look awesome!

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01:29 Sep-08-2016

I still have my trusty PS2 from back in the day of Dark Ages of being a console peasant. Then the renaissance period of having both a PC and PS2, and now a Golden Age of PC Master Race. Keeping the PS2 as a memento do bygone times of peril.
Heed my words oh worried traveler! Do not cross the boundary of what is holy and sacred in these lands, or else!
The wicked one resides there, on the top of that mountain, calling himself Lag, on his right, the heir to his throne, the one called DLC and his son, Pre-order. On his left[no more characters][Open ending

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10:06 Sep-08-2016

Oh, I got down thumbed by a peasant spy. Hurry brothers, the infidels are upon us, trying to enforce their views of none-PC-Master-Race. Gather now and on the count of 3 charge, no more no less. 3 shall be the number thou shall count, and the number of the counting shall be 3. 4 shall thou not count, neither count out 2, excepting that thou proceed to 3. 5 is right out. Once the number 3, being the 3rd number be reached, then charge at thy enemies, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.

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00:49 Sep-08-2016

Omg with the two parallel grooves in the front it reminds me of the PS2! I wonder if they took inspiration from it or if they just said "hey that would look cool!" XD

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00:30 Sep-08-2016

Who cares about PS4 Pro. Mass Effect Andromeda looks amazing!! Although I can't help thinking that things won't be quite the same without the characters that I grew to love in the previous trilogy. We shall have to see.

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23:56 Sep-07-2016

So basically if I don't have VR or a 4k tv, then there's really no point in getting one over my current ps4. But honestly it seems like they're trying desperately to keep up with the PC market. Just because we have 4k does not mean you have to rush into 4k. Try maintaining 1080p@60 first. Then have great exclusives and give us a reason to play console over PC.

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23:25 Sep-07-2016

SCAM alert !! lol

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23:24 Sep-07-2016

High end PC's still struggle in 4K. You can't take a turd, slap the "pro" name to it and viola! LOL Sorry boys, it doesn't work like that that! PS4 struggles in 1080P 60 fps let alone 4K lol I'm a realist...

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23:29 Sep-07-2016

Can confirm part 1 lol.


I think these "4k consoles" are gonna lead to some major **** storm once the consoleros notice they camt run new games in native 4k with it.

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07:23 Sep-08-2016

Doesn't need to be realist to think that. Just need to think logically. The 4K on PS4 Pro not a native 4K, just a Upscaled 4K. Same but not same.

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07:56 Sep-08-2016

You're forgetting the fact that PC has loads of stuff on the background, thousands of different component combination, etc. It's much easier to optimize games when you know exactly what hardware it'll use :)

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08:25 Sep-08-2016

Except that it's already been confirmed that only a few weaker games might play in real 4K and most will be upscaled from -1440p-1600p. Consolers wouldn't notice from far away but the marketing hype train will sell loads so they can "rub it in PC gamers' faces" that their $399 console "crushes" PC in 4K gaming. Dark times ahead...

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10:09 Sep-08-2016

Indeed :D

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23:20 Sep-07-2016

"Double the gpu power" 720p @30 fps x2 = 4k? I aren't think that


I got some honest doubt that games that will already push the limits of the normal ps4 would run on the ps4 pro in 4k, if so the graphic settings must be lowered for sure.

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07:16 Sep-08-2016

Which game runs at 720p 30fps on PS4?

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23:01 Sep-07-2016

wait double the gpu power from PS 4 makes it around 3.6 TF wasn't it supposed to have 4.1 TF which is 2.5 times more!?
and the cpu is just too weak hope Xbox comes with zen.
i wonder how not 4k PS 4 pro do in market.

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23:03 Sep-07-2016

Yes, PS4 Pro does have 4.2 TF GPU which is a 2.3x boost over standard PS4.

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22:50 Sep-07-2016

It'll probably end up playing games at 1440p 30fps.
Though the new XB1 probably still won't even get 1080p@60fps XD

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22:39 Sep-07-2016

Super lol !
4k with poor gpu/cpu is just upscale from FHD. be serious do not buy this scam :D !!!

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07:52 Sep-08-2016

It doesn't work like that. It's not upscaling from 1920x1080 (FHD), it's gonna use resolution as close as possible to 4K (3840x2160), devs are advised to use a minimum of 3200x1800 and upscale it to UHD TVs. 1800p for 4K is like 900p is to 1080p. Apparently it works well. And some indie, less demanding titles will use native 2160p as well.

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22:32 Sep-07-2016

The PS4 Pro might run in 4k but the settings are gonna be on med to low

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21:58 Sep-07-2016

I guess this will still perform worse than a decent CPU and RX 480 on PC... I mean come on... $200 for CPU, RAM and HDD? Meh... Plus lower TFLOPS and Clock... What am I doing with my life xD

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22:42 Sep-07-2016

Did you even see how small that thing is? Of course they'd have to sacrifice higher clock speeds in order to keep the TDP as low as possible, not to mention internal PSU etc., I just read that Rise of the tomb raider on PS4 Pro's gonna have 3 modes.



  1. 1080p 60fps mode: Using slightly enhanced or standard PS4 graphics (around High settings which even the XBO uses).

  2. 1080p 30fps mode: Maxed out graphics

  3. 4K mode: Using standard PS4 graphics with resolution as close as possible to 4K.


I think it's pretty awesome for a small $399 box with a slightly down-clocked full-fat RX 480 in it.

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11:09 Sep-08-2016

well the CPU is Jaguar and 1.3GHz 4 core Jaguars cost 25$ and that's for a socket, the PS4's CPU is integrated into the PCB, which usually means even cheaper, maybe 15$. GDDR5 is cheap and HHDs are cheap, easily can fit in that 200$ price range.

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21:57 Sep-07-2016

I have always like the PS4 platform but the upscaling game is high with this one. Just doubt they will be able to get 60fps 4K on every game.

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21:58 Sep-07-2016

Other than that it looks like a sexy version of my grandma's toaster :D

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21:52 Sep-07-2016

and here comes the pc gamers who will hate

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23:48 Sep-07-2016

Scams are to be hated because the marketing hype will have the uninformed masses buying this and "enjoying" the upscaled "4K gaming" on low-med settings and low framerates and then STILL rub it in our faces how their $399 console apparently crushes a $3000 4K gaming PC.
THAT is why we will hate and hate hard...

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14:08 Sep-08-2016

Yeah sure but most people on this site will hate just because its a console news. Just like all the previous article. The so called "Gamers" And where did they say that the console will crush a beastly 4k gaming pc?

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14:42 Sep-08-2016

The news haven't hit the masses much yet. Give it time, especially after launch. The console vs PC wars will intensify with consolers claiming what I said. You just wait a bit and you'll mark my words :)

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