AMD Radeon RX Vega Pictured for First Time - 3DMark Fire Strike Scores Leak

Written by Jon Sutton on Wed, Jul 26, 2017 9:59 AM

AMD’s Radeon RX Vega reference graphics card has been pictured for the first time. Their upcoming flagship is doing the rounds ahead of its expected launch on July 30th, with the first behind-the-scenes benchmark of the card taking place.

For those after something majorly exciting, I’m sorry to say that the reference card looks basically identical to AMD’s current Radeon RX 480 and Radeon RX 580 graphics card. It’s got a blocky grey shroud, a single fan, and the Radeon logo running down one side.

The image in question comes from HardOCP editor Kyle Bennett, who was provided with the Radeon RX Vega to test for just a single day. AMD asked he compare it against the Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080, but for his article which will presumably go live on July 30th, he instead opted to compare it against the more powerful GeForce GTX 1080 Ti.

As well as this, a trio of 3DMark Fire Strike scores have surfaced for what may be multiple Radeon RX Vega graphics cards. These are not Frontier Editions, but appear to be the actual real deal. From the looks of things, these scores were submitted by Jason Evangelho, AMD’s senior technical marketing specialist. With just four days to go until launch, these results provide a very clear idea of where AMD Radeon RX Vega will sit in the pecking order.

  Core Clock Speed Memory Clock 3DMark Fire Strike Score
MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Gaming 1924MHz 1390MHz 29425
MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Gaming 1924MHz 1263MHz 22585
AMD Radeon RX Vega #1 1630MHz 945MHZ 22330
AMD Radeon RX Vega #2 1630MHz 945MHZ 22291
AMD Radeon RX Vega #3 1536MHz 945MHZ 20949
Colorful GTX 1070 1797MHz 2002MHz 18561

The results clearly show just why AMD wants the Radeon RX Vega compared to the GeForce GTX 1080. It's pulling in practically identical scores, clearly outstripped by the GTX 1080 Ti. The results make it no performance slouch though, and it's within a single percentage point of MSI's factory overclocked GTX 1080. The crucial thing is now price. AMD is going toe-to-toe with a $600+ graphics card. To upset the market, a sub $500 price point seems a must.

How do you like the look of Radeon RX Vega? Plain Jane or stripped back beauty? What price point do you believe AMD is going to hit? Let us know!

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All of you saying that AMD is too late are either rich or too young to have a job (or you haven't had one yet). Christmas is creeping close and yearly bonuses. This Vega is not a this years lunch but the next years so to speak. You fail to understand that enthusiast gaming rigs are not the dominant market, like 1070+ specifications. AMD released Ryzen which is being praised and given huge potential as future games get released whilst being optimized not only for Intel; they dominate the console market, they have no need to dominate the top-top-top tier market in GPU business.

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For anyone who is going for a VEGA or 1080/Ti a freesync or Gsync monitor is a must buy. AMD knows that a large chunk of market is either have or gonna buy a freesync monitor so price of VEGA and a freesync monitor is going to be a defining factor in this.

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21:28 Jul-28-2017

Seems like AMD + FreeSync is better and $300 cheaper than Nvidia + GSync
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CE-wSU1KMw

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09:09 Jul-29-2017

The dude in the video states savings of 300 usd, I wonder where he pulled the price from since they aren't confirmed yet.. Vega is under such controversy that it's best to stop expecting anything

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20:57 Jul-29-2017

He's probably going by the cheapest FreeSynce monitor being roughly $300 cheaper than the cheapest GSync monitor, while keeping the relevant tier GPUs the same price ...

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10:31 Jul-29-2017

that makes no sense. Why not say what makes it 300 dollars cheaper. can be soo easy having different boards, psu, basing solely on monitor and gpu is not helpful for price difference

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20:59 Jul-29-2017

That would go in AMD's favor again, since AMD boards are cheaper than Intel boards.

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20:22 Jul-27-2017

So I can safely keep my 1080Tis, yay! :)

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16:57 Jul-28-2017

Would you seriously sell them to buy the AMD cards if they were better?

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17:04 Jul-28-2017

will you buy a 8k monitor?


i want to see how your 1080ti couple perform on 8k

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22:48 Jul-29-2017

Here you go. 8K test on 1080ti SLI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnjdWcnPWtE&t=805s

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11:32 Jul-27-2017

1070/80 have been out for a year. Chpest 1070 In my country 550e and 1080 750e. To be competitive & succeed, AMD MUST have low pricing, ex.being able to buy here the 1080 vega counterpart for 500-550e & the other for 350-400e. I want VEGA but it has to be cheap to worth it! If I'm saving 100e only, by buying a ''new'' gpu, that has same performance as an already 1yo GPU, then i havent saved SH*T!

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11:40 Jul-29-2017

AMD euro pricing is usually quite closer to USD pricing then nvidia does. You can look it up by comparing to newegg. Some countries in europe fck the market up on purpose and charge more, BUT don't forget living in europe u can order from any country.

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12:49 Jul-29-2017

I HOPE SO! Sure i can order from another country, I did consider that many times, but usually, shipping expenses make the price almost the same as in my country, especially when buying a single part. I got my 970 when it released and the max i would be able to save buying it from abroad, was like 20e, but i would have to wait, plus, every situation is easier to handle when the seller is near etc..

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07:05 Jul-27-2017

I don't have faith in VEGA.
AMD needs to learn in terms of marketing from Ryzen. If they wanted VEGA to be successful they should've released it earlier. They are tackling Pascal, not Volta. Nvidia has Volta ready as far as we know.

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20:39 Jul-26-2017

when is they ever going to update their reference designs, been using that since the HD 6000/7000 series smh

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20:57 Jul-26-2017

i agree with you but most people buy custom designs.


cooling is more important than design

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19:36 Jul-26-2017

AMD is stupid.I see Vega going down at the start of next year when Nvidia releases Next-Gen cards woth prices lower or equal to Vega for a bit more performance.I personally hated above scores.

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19:26 Jul-26-2017

Lol Vega is clearly superior to GTX 1080. 1630MHz core clock with Vega and it scored identical result to 1924MHz clocked 1080. At 1924MHz Vega could potentially get close to 1080 Ti.

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19:58 Jul-26-2017

Seeing how AMD cards are performing, I don't think there will be any more performance to squeese out. Unfortunatly that's a bad move, especially if nVidia does what they've done this year: 980ti = 1070 so maybe 1080ti = 1170...not good for AMD.

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19:06 Jul-26-2017

looks very sexy


but still behind gtx 1080ti

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18:00 Jul-26-2017

hey, i have that same case


anyways....this is air-cooled vega and is providing decent performance before it comes out. now water-cooled vega, if clocked higher could compete with 1080ti. sounds very familiar to the 980/980to vs fury/furyx battle.
wonder if this means the cards will do better as they age, like fuji did?
if these cards can overclock easily, unlike fuji, then amd could have a winner. if not, then they better be priced under the 1080/1080ti.

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18:30 Jul-26-2017

No way it can ever go against a 1080ti with something as simple as an OC

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02:56 Jul-27-2017

considering its lower clock than 1080, if the water-cooled one gets closer to the speed of the 1080 then it would be competitive to the 1080ti.

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06:11 Jul-27-2017

Competitive.. I see what you mean now but 300mhz clock jump still won't boost it's firestrike scores by 7-10k, to match a 1080ti

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02:13 Jul-28-2017

considering that a increase of roughly 100mhz increased the scores about 3000. another 300mhz could theoretically raise is 9k.

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16:27 Jul-26-2017

I can imagine bitcoin miners eating these things up like they did with AMDs midrange cards. Although, would that really be a bad thing in this case? We could complain about it all we want, but AMD would still make a profit, no matter what these are used for, as long as people buy them. With all the gains AMD made in that last fiasco, I think they'll have something even more competitive by the time Pascal refresh rolls around. At least, they won't be in the red.

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17:02 Jul-26-2017

Didn't AMD say they will be addressing this issue and releasing some cards specifically for miners so that the rest of the range doesn't get affected ?
I don't think they're dumb enough to sit around while their reputation goes down for their $240 card being sold for $360 - $500+. I'm not sure how much profit they'll be making at the current rates, when you can buy a 1060 for $260 - $300 instead - why buy an overpriced AMD competitor. Also, the AMD cards are barely available - how will they profit if there's nothing to sell :P

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19:27 Jul-26-2017

They did and miners said they werent as good as the regular cards, plus mining is a toilet now anyways.

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19:55 Jul-26-2017

So they've already made cards specifically for mining ? Which ones ?

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13:02 Jul-29-2017

I do believe it was the rx 480 or rx 580 mining edition or something like that.

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19:58 Jul-26-2017

They became unavailable because people bought them for mining, and supply couldn't keep up. I didn't say that was good for us, but it wasn't bad for AMD while it lasted. Will it happen again with Vega? Probably not, but like I said, they make money no matter who buys it for whatever purpose. You're looking at this as if gaming sales are the only ones that count. I'm saying their next generation of cards will be more crucial to competition with Nvidia.

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14:57 Jul-26-2017

AMD needs to stick to taking the budget and mid-range user market for now. They are way too late to compete on the upper end side at this point. Besides... the most units bought are in the mid-range anyway. That is where their focus should continue to be. At least until they can come up with something truly powerful without it being a electricity drunk space heater.

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15:36 Jul-26-2017

Agreed. they would have to sell this card for sub 400 to be competitive since you can grab 1080s for sub 500 now (at least in the US). I have a 1080 founder edition (added a water cooler) and score around 25000 on 3dmark firestrike, so lets hope that the rx vega can OC really well. I love the competition. It is alreadying making intel go crazy and the next gen of i7 is suppose to 6 core! I hope this pushes nvidia as well and we get some nutty increases!!!

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17:26 Jul-26-2017

Well on the CPU side of things I think AMD is doing wonderful, but I can't help but wonder if they moved some of their GPU development resources over to their CPU team temporarily because as they have been catching up to Intel on CPUs they have been falling behind nVidia on the GPU side.

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14:33 Jul-26-2017

AMD Vega - Team Rocket Edition!

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16:57 Jul-28-2017

Good one. :)

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14:12 Jul-26-2017

"Leak"

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14:03 Jul-26-2017

All of you saying that AMD is too late are either rich or too young to have a job (or you haven't had one yet). Christmas is creeping close and yearly bonuses. This Vega is not a this years lunch but the next years so to speak. You fail to understand that enthusiast gaming rigs are not the dominant market, like 1070+ specifications. AMD released Ryzen which is being praised and given huge potential as future games get released whilst being optimized not only for Intel; they dominate the console market, they have no need to dominate the top-top-top tier market in GPU business.

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14:41 Jul-26-2017

I am not rich or young, and I still think AMD is too late because nVidia will release a new round of GPUs of increased performance before the end of this year, and when they do the price on their current models will drop a bit. So basically what is going to happen is that AMD will have like a 2 or 3 month windows until nVidia offers equal to more performance (GTX 1080) for either less or equal money. Once nVidia launches their new round of GPUs they will lower the price of the 1080 to match or be slightly less than whatever this new AMD GPU will be. Watch and see... nVidia has a plan...

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18:34 Jul-26-2017

This is further worsened by the fact that after Vega hits the shelves AMD has nothing to put out for at least a year, while Nvidia is already rolling with Volta.

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16:14 Jul-26-2017

I read AMD planned to release Vega near the end of last year. If correct, they're definitely late. Almost a full year late. With RX 580s selling for $360 - $500+ and GTX 1080s for $510+ , I wonder what price range they'll sell Vega at. Will Vega selling for around $400 mean current gen AMD card prices will go down ?
I hope for the best for AMD though - we desperately need prices to come down.

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16:58 Jul-26-2017

Due to the bitcoin mining, NVIDIA cards have gone up as well - GTX1060 is selling close to 400 bucks;
Anywho, if it's cheaper than the GTX1080 (as an intended price at least, ofc it will go up at these uncertain times), it's a winner, just "fashionably late"

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17:32 Jul-26-2017

1060s start at $220 and quite a few are available under $350, in fact I'm struggling to find any closer to $400 than $350 (http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/gtx1060/). 580s (only 1 available atm) on the other hand start at $360. Therefore it's safe to say 1060s are still closer to their original MSRPs than 580s are to theirs.

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17:56 Jul-26-2017

As for 1080s, few are available under $600 nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/gtx1080/ so I'm guessing the VEGA's will target at most $550 and $450 at least. Just a guess.

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19:07 Jul-26-2017

So people stating AMD is pretty late against its competition is either Young for a job or rich. Are you serious, Nvidia already has decent cards playable for under 500 dollars for gaming at 1440p and above. I really do believe AMD is late here; doesn't mean I won't consider buying one of their rx vega cards but the timing is way too late. sheesh

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20:59 Jul-26-2017

I don't see your point here really, I say they're too late. Nvidias 1080, 1070, 1060 and even the 1080ti have been out for quite a while now, no matter what AMD has to offer, Nvidia will lower the price of said cards to again come out on top.
People always start accusing everyone as "fanboys" but that really isn't the case for those claiming they're too late, they just clearly seem to be to late.

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13:49 Jul-26-2017

so when are they going to beat 1080 Ti?

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13:57 Jul-26-2017

Why would you try to beat 1080 Ti? It's a top of the pops GPU whose owners can be counted on one hand. You don't want to make a GPU that costs like a whole new rig, since only the richest of the rich (gamers, since other richboys buy Apple) buy such graphic cards.

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14:47 Jul-26-2017

I have a freesync monitor, but my best choice is Nvidia not AMD cuz of 1080 Ti

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13:06 Jul-26-2017

If I were nVidia, I would just wait till AMD announces release, go on stage, congratulate AMD, announce release date for series 11, drop the mic and walk off... :-D It would be like giving middle finger to AMD, due to their late release for Vega.

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14:48 Jul-26-2017

That is basically what is going to happen. AMD will have a 2 to 3 month windows before nVidia releases something new, and lowers the price of their current hardware to match that of AMD's prices. AMD will have their new card out that matches the GTX 1080 on performance, and it will probably be cheaper than nVidia on it's launch, but that will not last long before nVidia releases their own new hardware and lowers the price of their current line up to match or be slightly less than the price of AMD's new stuff of equal performance. AMD has gotten too far behind at this point.

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10:43 Jul-26-2017

Got 980ti for good price if this ends cheap I might consider selling this card and get vega instead

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10:50 Jul-26-2017

Can you share the price?

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11:03 Jul-26-2017

300eur only 5month old card

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19:30 Jul-27-2017

That's ok.

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10:41 Jul-26-2017

For anyone who is going for a VEGA or 1080/Ti a freesync or Gsync monitor is a must buy. AMD knows that a large chunk of market is either have or gonna buy a freesync monitor so price of VEGA and a freesync monitor is going to be a defining factor in this.

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10:23 Jul-26-2017

So if the TDP is 250-275W It's the HD 7970 vs gtx 680 all over again, the remaining factor is price.

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10:23 Jul-26-2017

A, the good old days.

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10:54 Jul-26-2017

Well I wouldn't call them old, it's only one process node ago :D

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10:59 Jul-26-2017

Well it was 8 years ago.

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12:28 Jul-26-2017

Actually 5 years, the gtx 680 was released in spring 2012 and the hd 7970 was released in december 2011, and world-wide early Jan 2012. :)

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19:32 Jul-27-2017

Right you are. Don't know why I fed up the date. Got to reformat my brain.

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18:41 Jul-26-2017

Relics of past times still hold value though, my gtx 670 still smacks 680's and the 1050ti's around

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14:56 Jul-27-2017

your GTX 670 smacks GTX 680s, or did I get that wrong?

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10:20 Jul-26-2017

Please AMD don't make the card to expensive.

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10:23 Jul-26-2017

Or better yet make it just right. PPPPLLLLEEEEEAAAASSSEEEE

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