AMD launched the XFX and Sapphire editions of Vega 56 on Newegg and Amazon for $399 earlier today but the entire stock was bought in just 5 minutes. We discussed AMD's supply problems last week, most countries don't have the cards available due to the overwhelming demand and their decision to integrate High Bandwidth Memory in the new series.
AMD RX Vega 56 is based on Vega XT architecture with the base clock running at 1,156MHz whereas the boost clock runs 1,471MHz. It can deliver up to 10.5 TFLOPS of Peak SP performance and has around 3,584 stream processors. Its TDP lies at 210W, which is a lot higher than the GTX 1070 with which it competes, but both offer nearly equivalent performance.
XFX and Sapphire editions of this card were available on Amazon whereas Newegg only has the XFX edition. It is good to see that the new series from AMD is doing well in the market but fans will definitely be perturbed to see it go out of stock so frequently. AMD did promise that they would have a stable supply chain up soon to meet consumer demand but the way things look right now, it'll probably be a few months before anyone can get their hands on this series for a good price.
RX Vega 56 is available for pre-order on Overclockers for $100+ extra which is obviously not an attractive offer considering the GTX 1070 for a lot less and offers the same level of performance.
What are your thoughts regarding this? Have you got your hands on the new Vega series? Also are you willing to spend more to get the cards? Let us know!
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For anyone interested, Vega on water is INSANE, runs so cool.
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Insane price too ;)
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Got mine for 508€ and the block was 108€, 616€. An MSI 1080 Seahawk with the block is 720€. I saved 100€ pretty sure that is an insane price saving ty lol. Runs cooler then my r9 390 which is shocking.
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Would love to see a blog from you about this
Throw in some temps fps and clocks maybe some pictures :D
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I should do a blog on here yea, not sure how but i can figure it out haha. Temps so far, AMAZING. I played siege (uncapped) and cms18 (car mechanic, capped but its SO demanding i get less then my cap), my HBM2 peaks at 44°C (its cooled down a LOT here in southern France) and core peaked at 39°C, before was 91/85 respectively. Running a 360 push/pull and 240 in push/1pull. As far as clocks it always stays ABOVE 1500mhz, usually averaging around 1600ish.
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Give this a shot, whipped it up real quick, may still edit and what not.
http://www.game-debate.com/blog/23662/my-experience-with-vega-64
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Hey don't blame AMD, just blame these greedy mining trolls who have no regard for anyone but themselves, that might be why people can't get their hands on em.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nx4R6qjK1A
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i don't want to come off as a jerk, but fck that guy
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That's what i wrote in his comments haha. Dude has a huge house and is still a greedy whiny child. Really is a shame, the ones who actually want to use them for what their for. AMD should just kill the hashrates thru drivers that way miners will stop buying em.
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it's an open market, if you can buy them, you buy them and hardware is primiraly made for work, productivity and making money in general, gaming is a byproduct and don't hate on me, because you can NOT accept the truth.
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Consoles are made for gaming. And even if some of my most fav games are pc only i still am happy to own nintendo or ps 2+4
Zelda Mario Metroid are important to me
And on sonys side its ratched and clanc
I get less distracted while playing on console
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The news about VEGA supplies is that its gonna get stable till October. Guess my quest for VEGA shall take my patience to the limits. :D
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I saw many benchmarks on youtube, pairing vega 56 with intel skylake/kaby cpus kinda bottlenecks it, and it results in a same, sometimes lower, performance of a gtx 1070. With ryzen it changes everything and it turns into a beast. Why?
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Lol.
A 1700 at 3850 bottlenecked my 1080Ti pretty much in Battlefield 1. A 7800X at 4800 get about 22/25% higher min and avg with the same GPU.
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I'm sure that doesn't help Vega reviews to be using such CPUs especially with many new titles being patched to use more cores. Kinda glad i went with a 1700x paired with a Vega 64, just received my waterblock as well so will need to clean everything (1yr old loop) and wait for gd to finally add my mobo and gpu so i can actually add em to my rig haha.
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@greedymuffin i was talking about rx vega 56 specifically. We all know that intel pushes a lot more on single core performance, which is the sweetspot for gaming, i was just asking why it seems that vega loves ryzen and doesn't like intel that much
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Alot more power then 1070 cant agree with that 210w is not that bad considering how much compute power it has alo you refining something on preorder cost alot more then 1070 which I also cant agree gtx 1070 goes roughly for 450 500 eur whic is the same as rxvega I have feeling that youre very disappointed on this or something else is bothering you
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Well the gtx 1070 reference consumes 200W on full load while the vega 56 reference consumes 250W on full load, that's 20% more power, for 10-20% more gaming performance on average, depending on if the game is Nvidia optimized(which most games are nowadays) or NOT, I'd say it's NOT bad at all, if the price was right, but it's NOT due to supply and demand.
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Vega 56 and the gtx 1070 have a release price of 399 on the paper. I once saw a gtx 1070 for 389 but mostly they are 420 to 600
But vega 56 is over a year late and starts at 550 while the vega 64 is aviable at 609
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yup, if the vega 56 costed 350-400$ it would have been an excellent GPU, and I would personally go for 10-20% more performance of the same or lower price if I ever decide to buy big die GPUs.
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After all i rather wait vor navi this is not worth it at the moment
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@Tacese sorry man navi is already out of stock
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Luzzo97 no offense dude, but go back to youtube ;)
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it was a joke man...
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DAMN YOU MINERS!!!!!!
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this was the same story when the rx 480 launched the first 2-3 weeks there were totally no where to found particularly the 8gb models
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and still rare to find until now. becouse of minner
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well the slight difference is that they were sold to gamers, now they were sold to people actually using them to make money.
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vega : whatever u say, im soldout
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Navi arrives and still there are shortage with Vega Cards.
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that's fine because I want an AIB card anyway and I'm probably going to get it in November once the pricing BS and everything dies out
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WT* , people are blind this days...
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I'm an AMD fan first of all but I heard they didnt plan to send many units for sale anyway. Maybe they want these kind of news to be rolled out? Like " AMD Radeon Vega 56 Out Of Stock Five Minutes After Launch On Amazon " ... kind of good advertisement itself :) But maybe there is a huuuuuge demand who knows :)
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Wait wasn't one of their main reasons for delaying the release of Vega so that they had plenty of stock? I guess that one backfired!!
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they must have predicted it doing terribly if they delayed it to have plenty of stock which was still a pitiful amount.
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Maybe they kept half of the stock and started mining as hell ahahhaaha
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lmao
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ouch! Glad i have my trusty 1070 for 9months.. In my country (lithuania) none of new amd gpus are even listed..
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Heyy! Your neighbor Latvian here! ;d
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Good to see you mate :)
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Lithuanian here :D
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NASA pc :D Why dont you aprove it? anyway sweet setup:)
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I used to approve every rig until I kinda got tired of doing it. Everyone already knows that my stuff is real anyway, I posted many photos xD
This rig actually has 2x 1080Ti with a HB-SLI bridge and 2x 1080s in there. I use it for compute, gaming, rendering, etc.
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No!! It's fake! Just look at it, nobody should be able to have nice rigs.
Down-voting/thumbing incoming
;P
Luckily, that was the "old" days. :P
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looool
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So weird.. why would someone downvote because the rig of someone else is much better. You could have 4 1080tis i would not care. If you really have them or just acting high and mighty does not affect me. Upgrading is fun for me but i tend to use stuff till it Breaks which can take a while
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It used to be like that in 2013 or something.
"Fanboyism" is (sadly) still around.. LOL.
The real question is.. How do you overclock your GPU on GD? The option to add a OC does not work.. :P
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OC on GPU with Pascal makes no sense here anyway. Cool enough and Pascal clocks up waaaay past its "boost" clock automatically. GD needs to move from arbitrary OC numbers (which people don't know where to calculate from and do it wrong anyway - nobody tells us how!) to just submitting the core clock. A core/mem clock is a better indicator of power as opposed to an "OC" percentage.
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Yeah. Well, overclocking by using a modded vbios is actually pretty good. You can set the default and boost to the gpuboost clocks, this way my 960 runs at 1532MHz on core, a '20% overclock' over the card's default clock. The boost clock was hardly ever reached due the thermal design (low fan speed until it hits about 85C). I modified mine and it is rock stable, I even got the memory to overclock by a lot (2053MHz)
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I don't know if those numbers are good or not, unfortunately. I only have 1080s and 1080Tis, both of which hit 11GHz on mem and 2-2.1GHz core :)
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My old 980Ti hit 1515 on stock voltage.
That was an awesome overclockee.
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Mine does the same
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Mining, great performance, even better performance with the upcoming games due to optimization for Vega I hope, cheaper than NVidia counterparts (at least here by 100 Euro). Why not?
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One thing I'm completely sure about:
AMD gets higher prices: Nvidia does nothing about theirs
AMD gets similar performance, same price, higher TDP: No price drops from team green
AMD has cheaper prices, less efficient cards: The same again
AMD has cheaper and more efficient cards (including equal or better performance): Nvidia will probably work their ass off for a new card and maybe drop prices on current cards
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And then soon dropp support for the current cards
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And even sooner they go out of business
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Well that was unexpected xd
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People love amd so they buy amd.this is the reason of short supply
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delay the card for many months so there are enough for everyone. the vega 56 is not even listed yet in germany...
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It will be once they have em available, Europe gets em online later then the US but its not a worry because we can usually buy em no problem. I bought my Vega 64 on release day no problem.
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Yeah the vega 64 was on sale the past week 609 instead of 649€
But i wasted my money already on more important stuff
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Is the stock like 10 cards or are miners interested?
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I was gonna say the same thing xD
Selling something out in 5 minutes doesn't necessarily mean that there was an insane demand, just that there was not enough supply
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It's that miners have figured out with Vega 64 you can undervolt it and get amazing hash rates for the same power usage as a 1080. Not sure why theyre selling out so quick but we already knew they would be a low stock. Same way the 1080 and 1080ti fe sold out within minutes on release day.
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I was in the list of schmucks to buy 1080s and 1080Tis on release :)
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Haha, i bought my Vega 64 on a whim. They had a coupon code for 508€ instead of 649€ so i jumped on it. Price rose to 749€ a day later and now its 619€ so still a hell of a deal if you compare the cheapest Inno 1080 here is 589€.
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$chmuck$$$
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Me too. Bought a 980, 1080 and my 1080Ti on release. Only the 980Ti was bought a few months later in order to get the funds.
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@Blue: Amazing hashrate at 180 watts? Link?
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Going by what I've seen owners getting who are mining on the forums. OCed HBM memory and undervolted i think its around 38-40mh/s and using around 200w or so. All the reviews you see didn't OC/undervolt or use the mining software. Could be all BS but i dont really care for mining or miners for that matter haha.
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Amd taking its notes from nintendo i see.