People Are Mad You Kill Nazis in Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus

Written by Jon Sutton on Mon, Oct 9, 2017 11:38 AM
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We’re currently in bizarro-land, as the latest Wolfenstein 2: The New Colossus has been criticised by some for its anti-Nazi agenda and ‘politicised’ leanings. I don’t know where all these ‘alt-right’ have been for the past 30 years but Wolfenstein has always been about killing Nazis. After all, they say there are only two things you can kill guilt free in any game - Nazis and zombies.

The issues with the marketing campaign stemmed from a new trailer for Wolfenstein II that carried the message “make America Nazi-free again”, tying the franchise into the recent controversies in the US which have seen literal Nazis take to the streets. Bethesda also kicked off the #NoMoreNazis hashtag on Twitter.

We’ve somehow crept into an age where being anti-Nazi is a loaded agenda, and some people responding to the trailer evidently were not place. Tweets such as “Cool. Didn’t know Bethesda teamed with SJWs and ANTIFA” and “way to make it political, not buyin [sic]”. Some of these folks complaining of politicism proudly display swastikas in their profiles, so take it all with a pinch of salt. That we’re living in a time where being anti-Nazi can be viewed negatively is deeply worrying.

Pete Hines, VP of PR and marketing at Bethesda, has opened up about the controversy in a candid statement to GI.biz. "Wolfenstein has been a decidedly anti-Nazi series since the first release more than 20 years ago,” said Hines. “We aren't going to shy away from what the game is about. We don't feel it's a reach for us to say Nazis are bad and un-American, and we're not worried about being on the right side of history here.

“In Wolfenstein’s case, it’s pure coincidence that Nazis are marching in the streets of America this year. And it’s disturbing that the game can be considered a controversial political statement at all.

"This is what our game is about," he says. "It's what this franchise has always been about. We aren't afraid to embrace what BJ stands for and what Wolfenstein represents. When it comes to Nazis, you can put us down in the 'against' column."

That this is even a point for debate is just absolutely bizarre. As the old saying goes, those who do not know history’s mistakes are doomed to repeat them. The original Castle Wolfenstein is 36 years old now, while the influential Wolfenstein 3D launched in 1992. They’ve always been about killing Nazis for the express reason that they’re a pure representation of evil, making them the perfect cannon fodder for an FPS.

I, for one, can’t wait to gun down mecha-Hitler come October 27th, when Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus launches on PC, PlayStation 4 and Xbox One.

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This shouldn't even be given the time of day. Sad times we live in.

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05:40 Oct-12-2017

Might be tempted to get the game just to piss off Neo-Nazis.

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09:02 Oct-10-2017

laughs while killing nazis in wolfenstein

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13:15 Oct-10-2017

laughs in lurking

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16:23 Oct-10-2017

LMAO
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08:14 Oct-10-2017

This shouldn't even be given the time of day. Sad times we live in.

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13:16 Oct-10-2017

sadly this is what happens when peoples lives are to good and they like drama they create the most absurd first world problems

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14:00 Oct-10-2017

I think you're exactly correct.

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05:50 Oct-10-2017

I can't believe this right now.

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05:32 Oct-10-2017

We have been killing Nazi's since Wolfenstien 3D and people are now getting mad?

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15:31 Oct-13-2017

ikr

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00:59 Oct-10-2017

Sigh, gone are the days when you could just play a game and not have to wonder (Oh my am I going to insult someone by playing this)?

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00:17 Oct-10-2017

of course they are they must be donald trump supporters

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02:50 Oct-10-2017

Thats so shortsighted and ignorant i'm not going to give a proper response.

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04:35 Oct-10-2017

His comment is sound. If you've been keeping up with American politics, you would know Neo Nazi staged a rally protesting the removal of confederate statutes. They've voiced their support for trump.

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04:42 Oct-10-2017

Also, make "America Nazi-free again" is a play on Trumps campaign slogan. That's why Nazis are mad. Anyone who supports Trump and are against Nazi's wouldn't be offended.

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12:12 Oct-10-2017

You're absolutely correct, they were even marching in charlottesville chanting "you will not replace us", which then turned into "Jews will not replace us"O_O

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23:13 Oct-09-2017

Why is anyone mad at all? This game has always been about killing Nazis. Just because modern politics have shifted doesn't mean the games have to shift with it. Hell, I don't care if a game has to kill Jews or Capitalist Oligarchies, so long as the gameplay is fun. I hate that people can't separate politics and hobbies anymore. Get out of my pasttime and go campagin or start a protest or something

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21:11 Oct-09-2017

(Comment moderated - Do not use aggressive and/or offensive language - Jon)

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02:51 Oct-10-2017

What happens if you hit -100?

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10:56 Oct-10-2017

what abaut 9000

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12:09 Oct-10-2017

Probably deserves it.

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16:24 Oct-10-2017

What did he/she type?

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18:18 Oct-10-2017

Censoring isn't fun :D

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00:22 Oct-11-2017

@Psychoman Agreed
The more you suppress something the stronger it becomes. Acceptance & understanding is the key, if that isn't possible I would advise an amicable distance with enough time for things to cool off.

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11:53 Oct-11-2017

There are a set of guidelines and rules to commenting on GD and the comment stepped outside these boundaries. This isn't a platform for hate speech, I'm sure there are darker corners of the internet they can go to share their views.

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23:28 Oct-11-2017

When a post is hate speech I understand, no need for an additional explanation.


I find it sad that the internet has morphed into a beast that spews insults left and right.


:(

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18:34 Oct-12-2017

I don't find it a problem. If people get offended by some online troll then THEY need help, not the troll. The troll is just there to have fun and push buttons. What happened to "sticks and stones may break your bones, but word will never hurt you"..? We teach kids that and yet somehow adults can't handle words? xD

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21:00 Oct-12-2017

Gankutsuou i saw what he/she typed and trust me is not pretty to see and might get you mad.

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06:52 Oct-13-2017

@Xquatrox Not sure about teaching kids not to be bothered with someones word, haven't seen that in a while (way to much facebook and other social media stuff online). XD
But you are right, one sense of self should not be defined by another person.

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06:57 Oct-13-2017

@Ecks30 I'll leave that judgement to you.
I've honesty grown tired of the insults people spew on each other to care anymore.

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10:24 Oct-16-2017

@xquatrox you know.. I dont really get how you dont get this simple idea. I can understand what you are trying to say but it just doesnt apply anywhere. You cant just talk in any way in any circumstance. If you are walking down the street with your girlfriend or mother and some random person goes "get out of my way you XXXX" is that going to leave you indifferent? Are you going to be like "sticks and stones may break your bones, but words will never hurt you honey (or "you XXXX")? I dont think so. When you are talking with your boss arent you going to choose your words more carefully and respectfully? These are just simple examples, I can think of a million more. The point is that we should treat other human beings with at least some basic respect and that includes the way we talk to them. Its so simple. A given just like "Nazis are bad guys", thats how simple it is in my brain.


I think you know this for the most part and its not these situations that you are talking about but dont throw that "you can talk to anyone however the f@ck you want and if he gets offended he has a problem" around. No, I really dont think its how it is or how it should be in the 21st century.

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16:21 Oct-11-2017

I think we can try upvoting him. Afterall he is a troll and getting downvotes is his goal. I am sure we will make him angrier if we counter-troll him.

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23:30 Oct-11-2017

I would advise just talking normally.


If a person still doesn't want to have a civil conversation, that is on him/her.

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20:21 Oct-09-2017

Can we, for the love of God, play as the Polish, French, Yugoslav partisans, Greeks, Chinese, Japanese, Germans, Italians...ANYONE except Yanks and Bolsheviks goddamnit. I'm sick of constantly invading Omaha and duking it out in Stalingrad

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20:24 Oct-09-2017

Garand sounds nice and all but it is called Wolrd War II for a reason! It is not called Societs and Yanks kicking German ass war

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11:42 Oct-14-2017

definitely agree

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20:14 Oct-09-2017

Nationalsozialistische DEUTSCHE Arbeiterpartei - there are no literal Nazis in USA...

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20:23 Oct-09-2017

Of course not...... back during the war, they were known as "Nazi sympathizers"... today they are known as "Neo Nazis"... meaning "New Nazis", basically combining the Nazi ideas of "ethic purity", and genocidal "cleansing" with good ol' American Racism and bigotry.... they may not be literal "Nazis".... in some ways they're worse, their hatred expands from just Jews, to pretty much ANYONE who isn't straight, white, and christian.

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20:27 Oct-09-2017

That means they are fascist. Naziism is specific for Germany and only Germans can be Neo-Nazis. Everyone else can only be, as you said, Nazi sympathizers or members of some other fascist group.

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20:30 Oct-09-2017

For example, NDH was also fascist and almost the same as Nazis (although instead of Soviets they hated Serbs and because Germany was the big boss they also had to give out the Jews even though they didnt have anything against them really)

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20:32 Oct-09-2017

Same goes for Serbian fascists, only vice versa. But you dont see the mass media proclaiming Trump supporters "Ustasha" or "Chetniks". That would be ridiculous, same as calling them Nazis or Neo-Nazis.

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20:34 Oct-09-2017

Fair enough.... I guess it's just easier to say "Nazis"...... and the misnomer is only strengthened by many groups actually calling themselves Nazis..... as is the case with "The American Nazi Party" headquartered in Arlington Virginia....and other groups who very much consider themselves Nazis.

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20:36 Oct-09-2017

And to be faIr.... many of those "Trump supporters" were flying Nazi flags, and were using Nazi salutes.... so i guess if it looks like a Nazi, Acts like a Nazi....... well you know..... lol

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20:39 Oct-09-2017

Americans who call themselves Nazis are either uneducated or unimaginative...or both. Same goes for those calling them Nazis.
But the problem is beyond that. If it is implied that all Trump supporters are Nazis, that means that half of the

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20:40 Oct-09-2017

US population is "Nazi", which ironically is the higher percentage than in Nazi Germany in 1933.

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20:43 Oct-09-2017

I don't think it was ever implied that all Trump supporters were Nazis...... I would vehemently disagree with all Trump supporters being labeled as such..... however, if I'm at a protest, and I see my side throwing up Nazi flags and Nazi salutes..... I'm leaving, by remaining there, I would only be lending them my support..... and it would probably mean that I atleast partially agree with them.

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20:47 Oct-09-2017

I dont know, I dont live in USA but it seems as though all media labels Trumps supporters as Nazis, almost rooting for Trump to fail. Which honestly I dont get. He is not running for the president, he IS the president

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20:49 Oct-09-2017

and wanting to see your president, now that he is in office, fail is beyond me.

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20:51 Oct-09-2017

But who am I to judge, my corner of the world (Balkans) is known for creating more history than we can consume.

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21:12 Oct-09-2017

There may be a few who make the connection "Trump Supporter = Nazi", but frankly those people are idiots and in the minority....As someone who is extremely anti Trump.... I want him out of the White House, and heavily disagree with most of his supporters on just about everything...... He claimed the Presidency on a campaign of bigotry, without a single shred of experience running a country, and people are now finally seeing that he's unqualified to manage a Mcdonalds, let alone be President....

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21:15 Oct-09-2017

continued He's a fascist and couldn't care less about the people of this nation, he's only using his position to get richer, and benefit his rich buddies.... but to label every Trump supporter as a Nazi or a racist is just wrong.... it's not quite as simple as that..... though a decent enough sized portion of his stoutest supporters are indeed "racist".... at the opposite end many only voted for him because they believed him to be the "lesser of two evils".... and for every reason inbetween.

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13:17 Oct-10-2017

Why are my comments mentioning NDH, Serbia and Balkans being downvoted lol? You people of the internet have some serious issues

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19:52 Oct-09-2017

Not about the topic but i have to post this. In one of the trailers two characters named Bombate and Sigrun Engel are doing something private. Of course doing something private is acceptable in a game made for adults but Sigrun Engel is 17 years old. Don't believe me? Check the wiki.
http://wolfenstein.wikia.com/wiki/Sigrun_Engel
Killing nazis and adult sex are socially acceptable in video games but i am not sure about child molestation.

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19:54 Oct-09-2017

LOL, I'll grant you... if you were going to find a reason to be mad about this game.... child molestation is a far better reason than "oh noes, they're killing Nazis! D8"..... though i think most countries do consider 17 a legal age for consent.... it's actually 16 here if I remember correctly, but I get why people might find a trailer depicting a 17yr old doing the nasty to be cringy as hell.

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20:29 Oct-09-2017

but she's 18 according to wikia and by the way don't confuse laws of USA with laws all over the world not in all country's/times adult age is considered to be 18 and also it's a fictional character they can just pump her age up!

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16:32 Oct-10-2017

Well, it was 17 when ,i posted this. Someone must have mistakenly wrote 17 and then corrected it after i wrote this.

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16:33 Oct-10-2017

Besides it still says that she was born in 1944, game takes place in 1961. 1961-1944=17. You are right about adult age being different in some countries though.

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19:48 Oct-09-2017

What ever happened to the simple world we lived in in which the Nazis(a group who intentionally sent thousands upon thousands of innocent people to their horrible deaths all in the name of "ethnic cleansing") were clearly the bad guys? Does no one remember the bloody war fought to defeat this evil? And now suddenly THEIR opinions, and THEIR sensitivity matters and has to be considered? WTF is this?

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05:01 Oct-10-2017

It started ever since neo-nazis started to support Trump. since then any public criticism of Nazis has a connotation of being anti-trump.

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19:36 Oct-09-2017

just imagine if there was a game about killing jews holocaust or sth. now imagine what outrage it would cause! it would get a straight adult only rating(basically a death sentence) not mentioning the protests against it!

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19:03 Oct-09-2017

Take me away, Mr. Musk!

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17:45 Oct-09-2017

Fook nazis!

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17:16 Oct-09-2017

And just as a 5 year old could easily guess, there's less than one percent of actual Nazis complaining about the trailer out of the total of virtue signaling retards making **** up about there being tons of Nazis complaining about the trailer. Either the utter cancer gaming media has very little to write about and invent hit stories like this, or Bethesda really mastered the marketing scheme.

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16:57 Oct-09-2017

Like, WTF were all the Wolfenstein games about? If you don't know then STFU! If you don't know history OK :D.

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16:46 Oct-09-2017

I hope NASA starts colonizing Mars soon, I don't feel welcome here anymore. :)

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17:27 Oct-09-2017

2024

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21:15 Oct-09-2017

NASA is not planning on sending people to Mars until the 2030s. I believe you are referring to Space X.

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21:34 Oct-09-2017

It was a joke mate. No need to act like a know-it-all. :p

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17:27 Oct-09-2017

They (breakaway civilization) are already there but i don't think Mars is far enough... somewhere in Orion constellation would be much better :D

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17:39 Oct-09-2017

im looking forward to a VR wolfenstien when you get to kill actual Nazis. (VR minus headset plus real gun of course)

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17:59 Oct-09-2017

Wishing harm on others makes you just as bad.

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18:47 Oct-09-2017

id agreed if nazis were human,

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20:24 Oct-09-2017

They are human there was a SS officer that refused to take part in the genocide and somehow he didnt get assassinated. Rommel was against what the nazis stood for but served and fought for a better germany. You are just as bad as nazis.

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20:29 Oct-09-2017

Cont'd. Wishing death and harm on a group of people makes you as bad as the worst of them. And if you dont think so look to history. It starts with scapegoating escalated to harm and then escalates to murder and annihalation.

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19:06 Oct-09-2017

Two Trump cadences later you'll get to do that ;)

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05:08 Oct-10-2017

I think it's safe to assume that the Nazis in this game aren't the type that are secretly against Nazism. I personally have no qualms saying that the only good Nazi is a dead one.

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16:39 Oct-09-2017

Some people should watch the 12th season of supernatural


The nazi necromancer episode was AWESOME!!!

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19:42 Oct-09-2017

nahh i hope it had just ended at season 10, 11 was just too awful to watch i mean when u have to mess up with GOD and the GOD is HE then u just know the writers are just sh!t.
if GOD is a man then i'm with the Devil !

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