Intel Officially Reveals Kaby Lake G CPUs With Discrete AMD Radeon Graphics

Written by Stuart Thomas on Tue, Nov 7, 2017 12:39 PM

After months of rumour-mongering, Intel has at long last come out and officially announced a deal with AMD to include Radeon Technologies Group semi-custom graphics chips on its  Kaby Lake G-series CPUs.

The deal incorporates a discrete AMD Radeon GPU on a high-performance Intel CPU, including 4GB of onboard HBM memory. The result is an ultra-thin APU with fast compute performance and a low power draw. It’s all stitched together with a custom interconnect, a result of Intel's intent to move towards heterogeneous architecture.

AMD’s contribution is a custom Radeon GPU. We’ve only got leaked specs to go on, but it looks as if it’s got 24 CUs (Compute Units) with 1536 Stream Processors. It’s clocked at around 1.1GHz and offers roughly 3.3TFLOPs of compute power. That’s roughly the same compute performance as the base Xbox One and PS4 combined, from just a single CPU.

“Our collaboration with Intel expands the installed base for AMD Radeon GPUs and brings to market a differentiated solution for high-performance graphics,” said Scott Herkelman, vice president and general manager, AMD Radeon Technologies Group. “Together we are offering gamers and content creators the opportunity to have a thinner-and-lighter PC capable of delivering discrete performance-tier graphics experiences in AAA games and content creation applications. This new semi-custom GPU puts the performance and capabilities of Radeon graphics into the hands of an expanded set of enthusiasts who want the best visual experience possible.”

The first benchmarks have leaked for the Intel Core i7-8705G engineering sample have leaked, and the results are hugely impressive. In an Ashes of the Singularity benchmark at 1080p/High, the processor is pulling in an average frame rate of 33.5fps. It’s nowhere near what we expect from dedicated graphics cards these days but it’s still solid gaming performance and a tantalising glimpse at where this technology and partnership could go next.

This is a fascinating play from AMD, boosting the performance of Intel’s mobile processors just as it has its Ryzen Mobile APUs inbound. The upshot is that AMD could be making money from every CPU bought, regardless of whether it’s Intel or AMD.

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01:10 Nov-08-2017

I'm going to take a guess that this is for one, maybe two clients with Apple looking like a certainty, they want to keep pushing with the Macbook Pro with lower power and higher performance with 100% compatibility between the new iMac Pro and the new MBP for high end Apple pro software, if there is a PC maker in the market for something similar, it is probably Dell

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00:41 Nov-08-2017

AMD has just cornered the APU market with this deal. They are going to make money no matter which brand people are buying. Absolutely awesome

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00:09 Nov-08-2017

Does anyone knows a good free software to benchamark fps in dx 12 games? except rivatuner?

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00:48 Nov-08-2017

If you mean a frame counter, Fraps has DX12 support now, I believe you can configure the Steam overlay to count FPS for you, Nvidia seems to have an FPS counter in their shadowplay software.
Why not Rivatuner though? It does work with DX12, and you can also use it to monitor your temps, usage, fan speeds, etc.

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22:57 Nov-07-2017

Not good for their own line of upcoming Ryzen mobile CPUs, infact they might want to consider not even bothering wasting the money and resources on Ryzen mobile if they're going to do this... but it's great for the proliferation of Radeon Graphics. This move is obviously aimed at mobile gamers, you clearly do not need a 3.3TFLOPS GPU for streaming HD video or doing powerpoint presentations. This is aimed at people who want to game on a laptop but don't want to shell out for full on gaming laptop

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00:28 Nov-08-2017

i do agree, if they are going to do this why even bother with their own ryzen labtop cpu. When the intel has better cpu and now with amd igpu. What just to make the amd fanboys happy and waste more money that they don't have r u kidding me?

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00:38 Nov-08-2017

I'd say performance wise and dollar for dollar Ryzen competes pretty well.... I'd expect it to be no different in the mobile sector.... except for the fact that the GPUs they were planning on integrating with Ryzen mobile were about half the performance of the GPUs they're giving Intel.... AND they didn't mention anything about using dedicated HBM2 VRAM with Ryzen mobile, so the Inetl mobile chips will have far more GPU grunt than the Ryzen mobile.

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22:51 Nov-07-2017

I can imagine this will be good for those people who want an ultrabook, and expect to play games on it. Intel's integrated graphics do what they need to do, but they can barely run most new games. If these new APUs don't raise the price of base laptops much, we could be seeing a lot more people pick up PC gaming easily.

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22:59 Nov-07-2017

Another benefit of this is going to be widespread use of Radeon graphics...... meaning game devs are going to have no choice but to start optimizing for it far better than they have lately.

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20:36 Nov-07-2017

but what about those "glued together dies?"
i never thought that intel would work with their rival.

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08:49 Nov-08-2017

Glued together die is an actual technical term, most people who raised a fight over that is people who didn't know about it; or so I was lead to believe

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19:31 Nov-07-2017

We need some competition to get things moving forward, though.

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03:28 Nov-08-2017

this is for intel and amd to compete against nvidia in a market both have struggled with

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19:06 Nov-07-2017

very early, or very late april fools? lol what

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17:06 Nov-07-2017

I never though those guys will ever team up

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16:08 Nov-07-2017

This is potentially good or bad... because AMD and Intel teaming up isn't necessarily a good thing, especially if they continue to become more buddy-buddy with each other, a monopoly is absolutely possible, or just a great benefit for AMD, but knowing companies, it's never the later, only the former... :/

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03:29 Nov-08-2017

a monopoly wouldnt happen because the regulators wont allow it.

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06:08 Nov-08-2017

true, but it has to be deemed a monopoly by them to do something about it and they can avoid technical monopoly no problems.

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18:54 Nov-08-2017

The regulators would see it as a monopoly since AMD is the only rival Intel has in the consumer market. They can be allowed to work together but one will never own the other. It would be like when at&t was broken up because it was causing local monopolies across the states.

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16:01 Nov-07-2017

how much would this cost?

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16:20 Nov-07-2017

If the regular i7 is 300-400 it is likely to be a taf more expensive than the k version i think.


So its a non k version with gpu upgrade makes it more valuable than a unlocked version. Would be cool to see g versions with less than i7

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18:26 Nov-07-2017

They are mobile only. They are meant for ultra books and tablets.

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19:14 Nov-08-2017

How many gflops do the ryzen 7 2600u generate ? This one needs to top it by 20% and enough people gonna buy it


But if they release it in a nettop that would be awesome minipc gaming should be a thing

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15:55 Nov-07-2017

What's next XBOX and PlayStation support Cross Platform multiplayer?

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16:11 Nov-07-2017

Heh, if only. Sony is still playing the loner regarding it. xD

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18:27 Nov-07-2017

Sony unlocked a few games for crossplay.
AMD and Intel working together.


We are one place away from HL3 confirmation.

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18:59 Nov-07-2017

Yea between PC and Playstation, but not xbox and playstation.

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21:41 Nov-07-2017

Half Life 3 would suck, because it's NOT going to be developed by the original people who made the game, so even if it's the best shooter ever, it still will be Half Life 3 ONLY by name and of course plot. Not that I liked Half Life 2 anyway, but oh well.

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21:32 Nov-07-2017

There was on Fortnite not to long ago but then Sony found out and flipped the switch.

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14:42 Nov-07-2017

Can i support AMD by buying an Intel CPU now?

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14:17 Nov-07-2017

This is cool. It may hurt AMD a bit on its ryzen buisiness but it helps get Radeon GPUs in more PCs and especially in the laptop sector where they are almost extinct.

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18:28 Nov-07-2017

They are mobile only meant for ultrabooks and tablets.

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21:42 Nov-07-2017

Well considering that when it comes to laptops people just buy intel, no matter what, because intel is everywhere in that market and who know why else, it can only help AMD.

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14:10 Nov-07-2017

I am gonna put this here, exciting stuff!

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13:41 Nov-07-2017

after watching the video and reading the article im really interested in getting this laptop now. Hope it doesn't flop.

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13:34 Nov-07-2017

I cannot express in words how hyped I am for this.

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13:23 Nov-07-2017

For an APU thats very power, however its also kind of redundant since (for this model anyway, unless its a laptop) its for a high end CPU, which anyone who actually cares for performance will have paired with a dedicated card.

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16:48 Nov-07-2017

Laptops.

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13:19 Nov-07-2017

I had to read the article like 10 times to belive it.If Intel and AMD can do business I think we can all get along. :D

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12:56 Nov-07-2017

good amd people took you easy


you are hard

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