Microsoft Halts Windows Spectre Fix for AMD Users - Update Causing Systems to Fail to Boot

Written by Jon Sutton on Wed, Jan 10, 2018 3:31 PM

Microsoft has suspended the latest Windows updates for AMD users which have delivered fixes for the Spectre security vulnerabilities. Multiple Windows users with AMD processors were reporting their PCs were unable to boot following the updates, causing the dreaded Blue Screen of Death.

“Microsoft has reports of customers with some AMD devices getting into an unbootable state after installing recent Windows operating system security updates,” explains Microsoft.

“After investigating, Microsoft has determined that some AMD chipsets do not conform to the documentation previously provided to Microsoft to develop the Windows operating system mitigations to protect against the chipset vulnerabilities known as Spectre and Meltdown.”

In a textbook case of ‘it’s not our fault, it’s theirs’, Microsoft has shifted the blame for a dud Windows patch that clearly wasn’t ready for public release.

As a result of this issue, Microsoft has suspended Windows updates for those AMD processors that may be affected by the change. The aim is to work with AMD to make sure these updates are readily available as soon as possible.

If you happen to be one of the unlucky few that have been affected by this, Microsoft is directing users to various blue screen error troubleshooting pages depending which version of the Windows OS you’re using.

  • Troubleshoot blue screen errors in Windows 10
  • Resolving blue screen errors in Windows 8.1
  • Resolving stop (blue screen) errors in Windows 7

Neither Microsoft nor AMD have made it clear which AMD CPUs are affected by this. AMD users on GD, have any of you run into any problems? Let everyone know in the comments!

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03:23 Jan-12-2018

Ryzen 5 1600, no problems here.

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17:40 Jan-11-2018

i have the fx8350, and windows has installed the update for meltdown automaticly.
I have windows 10, but my computer boots up normally :)


So i can confirm here (at least for my part) that the fx8350 is not affected to what was written in the OP


But in the comments someone said that his pc tried to boot 10 times before finally showing windows, but should be another problem i think.

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09:38 Jan-11-2018

This is kinda off topic but is there a way to backup my bios ? Cause I used the gigabytes qbios app for backing up the bios. And once I flashed that backup my system wouldn t boot. It kept going back to the bios. So I went to check up my boot priorities and it just said disabled and if I change it to my ssd and save and exit it would restart and still said disable...

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09:42 Jan-11-2018

So I had to flash a new clean bios. Which worked without a problem and saved my settings.

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19:51 Jan-10-2018

Happened to my brother didn't boot; but what I did was go to bios reset to defaults and changed his boot back to his os drive and it started to work, please reply if you had anything like this after an update and see if this fixed it

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19:26 Jan-10-2018

As I read it, effected CPUs are Athlon and Athlon II. Windows will simply not boot after the update and re-installing didn't help, because Windows would automatically install update and you would en with same issue. First report I saw was for "AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+". Haven't heard for any issues on Ryzen though.

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16:49 Jan-10-2018

I bought an i5 4590 (great timing) but I'm not using it right now so idk if I should or wait for the fix (if it ever happens)

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19:14 Jan-10-2018

don't bother patching, you wont feel any difference

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00:48 Jan-11-2018

i also have an i5 4590 wtf is going with all this intel drama ???? i dont understand how did this even happend? so patches doesnt fix anything?

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13:07 Jan-11-2018

Basically, just keep Windows and browser up to date and you are fine. BIOS too, if you know how. Otherwise don't worry, just two potential risks have been found in Intel processor architecture and it is kind of getting overblown, due to performance impact, which is pretty much unnoticeable to home user anyway.

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13:09 Jan-11-2018

Mostly impact will be felt by big corporations who have datacenters that serve thousands to millions of people. There impact can easily be 30% or more. But people are suddenly calling it doom and all, like it would slash your FPS to half, when in reality in worst case I saw was 5FPS less. 95% it is +/- 1-2FPS

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16:39 Jan-10-2018

I believe Tomshardware did a similar article and said it was AMD Athlon II's that were having the issues. I can't think this is affecting many people just frustrating for the few it does affect.

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16:37 Jan-10-2018

Don't be fooled tho. Spectre can't be fixed completely without a new microarchitecture, because the fault lies in the cache design and out of order execution of all CPUs made since the mid 90s, regardless of the manufacturer (ARM, Sun, AMD, Intel etc). These fixes only make it harder to exploit it, but the flaw is so fundamental that no software can fix it completely. Let's hope these fixes will be enough to prevent the worst case scenarios until we get a fixed CPU architecture, but that won't happen until 2020s.

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16:39 Jan-10-2018

Meltdown is what's being fixed here by patches, spectre i believe is affecting both AMD and Intel but Intel seems to be way more susceptible to it. And it's not 2020 btw, AMD has already said their Ryzen 2 platform (coming out in a couple months) won't be affected by either issue (we'll have to wait and see though)

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16:52 Jan-10-2018

FOr Ryzen 2 to be free of Spectre, they'd have to have known of the issue by the time they were developing Ryzen 1. The only way to fix this is by adding a new microcontroller, designing a new cache or add transistors that check the data that gets dumped into the cache. If that's the case, this is a huge cover up. However, if they were caught pants down by this just recently, it will be 2020s. They're already designing their next architecture, and making sudden changes to counter this problem will delay it. The smart move would be to introduce a permanent fix in Ryzen 4, that way they have time and don't damage their revenue

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17:34 Jan-10-2018

Whatever the next generation is but this current one will not have fixes unless they knew about the vulnerability before hand. But for that, we will need to find the date of when the exploit was first documented. Anyways, I find it doubtful that the new lineup will be fixed.

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17:42 Jan-10-2018

And who are you to tell a company which has been in the game for years what to do?

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18:00 Jan-10-2018

Pretty sure AMD has known about this hence why their architecture isn't as affected as Intel is, AMD processes data differently. I'm just going by what I've read on both issues. But who really knows, their always covering s**t up and stealing ideas from other companies, hence why AMD sued Intel years ago and AMD won.

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18:41 Jan-10-2018

@Bluej511 AMD is just as affected by Spectre as Intel or ARM is. The only thing that was Intel specific was a lack of coding in their firmware which was fixed. That was mentioned on GD about two days before Meltdown or Spectre.


@Reddominator93 Wrong thread?

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23:16 Jan-10-2018

Yea by spectre i understand but by meltdown its no where near as bad. From my understanding Intel is having it a lot worse right now PERIOD.

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23:35 Jan-10-2018

I'd be happy to look at any sources you got but as far as I know all platforms are affected equally.

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16:32 Jan-10-2018

About a week ago my 8350 setup would try to boot into automatic repair about 10 times before actually starting my computer. I wonder if this is why, my roommate had the same problem with the same setup.

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16:01 Jan-10-2018

No issues here, from what I've read this is only affecting really old AMD processors, which let's face it anything but Ryzen is an old AMD processor. Mine updated just fine and doesn't seem like the patch is affecting Ryzen at all but never know.

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14:04 Jan-10-2018

So far I haven't noticed anything wrong to be honest, might be because my processor is a bit old, anyway, no problems what so ever.

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