Up For Debate - Which AMD Ryzen 2000 Series or Intel Coffee Lake CPU is the Best Buy?

Written by Jon Sutton on Sat, Apr 7, 2018 4:00 PM

 We're on the eve of a major hardware reshuffle. AMD is launching its next generation of Ryzen 2000 Series processors on April 19th, designed to go toe-to-toe with Intel's finest 8th-Gen Coffee Lake chips. The prices and specs are now out in the wild, but which CPU is the best buy for gamers in 2018?

Now, we're just talking raw performance here as it's simple enough to pick the most expensive option. Instead, we're looking at the CPU which the ever-knowledgeable GD community believes offers the best bang for your buck. The CPU that offers fantastic value alongside top-tier performance, and preferably not something that's going to have to be upgraded 18 months down the line.

Just to keep things simple we’re going to stick with the officially announced AMD Ryzen 2000 CPUs and their direct Intel equivalents. Intel has heaps more processors in its Coffee Lake range than AMD does in its Ryzen 2 range, but this should help the poll to be more analogous.

CPU Cores/Threads Base/Boost speeds (GHz) TDP Price
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 8C/16T 3.7/4.35 105W $329
Intel Core i7-8700K 6C/12T 3.7/4.7 95W $329
AMD Ryzen 7 2700 8C/16T 3.2/4.1 65W $299
Intel Core i7-8700 6C/12T 3.2/4.6 65W $299
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X 6C/12T 3.6/4.2 95W $229
Intel Core i5-8600K 6C/6T 3.6/4.3 95W $243
AMD Ryzen 5 2600 6C/12T 3.6/3.9 65W $199
Intel Core i5-8600 6C/6T 3.1/4.1 65W $224

These are the very basic specs and pricing, and of course a little of this is conjecture without actually getting our hands on Ryzen 2000, but which of this bunch do you think would be the best CPU to put in a new gaming build in 2018?

Get voting in the poll below and let us know why in the comments! Flame on!

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03:33 Apr-14-2018

The last time I tried a non-Intel chip was in the mid 90's. It was made by Cyrix in the x86 era. The voltage regulators on the motherboard got so hot I'll bet you could brand cattle with them. At the next computer show, I took the chip and board back and the exchanged them for Intel stuff. I didn't know they were known for cooking motherboards. Once bitten.....

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03:38 Apr-14-2018

I understand your apprehension but now is a perfect time to dip your toes into another CPU vendor

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22:17 Apr-14-2018

As far as temperatures go, Ryzen isn't bad. Sure 8c 16t Ryzen can make VRMs on some motherboards bit toasty, if you overclock. But with good motherboard or at least fan that will blow at least some air to VRMs, it isn't bad. Something like ASUS Prime B350 is pretty cool.

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01:49 Apr-15-2018

my VRM's are pretty frosty most of the time even with my (actually light) overclock, then again the heat sinks on them are pretty effective. A Prime B350 board is perfect if you want to build a more Ryzen economic system that still is very nice however I would recommend the Fatal1ty AB350 or Strix B350-F a little more for the superior built quality and audio, however the PCI slot with the Prime is nice for legacy parts, the Killer X370 is superb too

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00:54 Apr-14-2018

I vote Intel Core i7 8700k 3.7 Ghz

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20:01 Apr-13-2018

Just bought 8700k and cant wish more.

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16:52 Apr-12-2018

I was originally saving up my money to go for a Ryzen build but now since they released the H310M boards for 8th gen processors (because i don't really do overclocking anyways) i am planning on going for a i5 8500 instead just because it is 3GHz base clocked and also i believe the cooler it would come with would be more than enough and really if i didn't have a good enough dedicated GPU already i would of considered the Ryzen 5 2600 since i know for most games it would be able to handle medium to high settings just with the iGPU alone.

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16:55 Apr-12-2018

Also would like to mention that i watched my friend play Destiny 2 with a 2400G using the iGPU on it only and he was able to play it at 1080p medium and high settings mixed but low on shadows and was getting on average 52 fps which isn't that bad at all so really if the 2600 has a iGPU as well should be able to handle games like that mostly on high settings of course with low shadows just to have a better stable fps.

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17:17 Apr-12-2018

That CPU is impressive stuff, someone ran like 100 different game benchmarks on it on reddit and it's a solid performer

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17:37 Apr-12-2018

Ya it is a pretty good CPU especially when using just the iGPU in the system and also i find that people using a 2nd or 3rd gen i5 with a 750 Ti would have no problem with this CPU alone because the iGPU in the 2400G already out performs the 750 Ti and really just from this parts list alone is already super affordable https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zn3Rkd which does include a monitor and a keyboard/mouse.
The one other thing i like is AMD does send you a 2 core Ryzen chip for upgrading your bios so you can use these processors without any problem.

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21:08 Apr-12-2018

Don't get me wrong, the 2400G is a great CPU and it's IGPU is definitely far improved over the old A-series APU IGPUs........ but you really shouldn't be so quick to underestimate the GTX 750 TI..... in a few games the 2400Gs IGPU can come close to its performance, but it never manages to outperform it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtFxq0nR9Bo

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00:00 Apr-13-2018

TClanWolf i am sorry but graphs and still images in a video i won't really trust and come on the only video's he has with actual gameplay is the Intel chips oh and maybe 1 video with a Ryzen 5 chip.
Also lets not forget that 8100 has a dedicated GPU in it and let us not forget that there is a lot of people in the world that still own's processors such as a i5 2400, 3470, 4460 and would be wanting to build a whole new system which that person could sell his old system with the 750 Ti for about 300$ - 400$ and then buy a RX 570 for their new system.

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07:18 Apr-13-2018

Oh ya TClanWolf just would like to mention as well that the 2400G can be overclocked as well unlike the i3 8100 so CPU and GPU performance would go higher as well.
Also lets say someone is just starting to want to get into PC gaming the 2400G would be the better choice cause while the i3 8100 might be cheaper but in reality when you add in the GTX 750 Ti it would actually become more expensive cause the average price for a used 750 Ti is between 100$ to 150$ and yes i include the shipping and only from North America cause China usually scams people.

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18:54 Apr-13-2018

@Ecks30..... I get it, the 2400G is definitely going to be a better value for some, but the 750 TI is still outperforming it, that's not the only benchmark that shows this, that's just the first one that popped up in search, the 2400Gs GPU doesn't outperform a 750 TI, and it doesn't match it..... in some games the 750 TI climbs as high as 60% and higher than the 2400G.... there's a clear gap between the two in some games, while in other games they are far closer in performance.

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19:01 Apr-13-2018

@Ecks30..... We should probably note that the games in which the 750 TI smashes the 2400G IGPU are generally titles that favor Nvidia(like GTA5 for instance), so there's that, and there's also the lack of optimization when it comes to Ryzen CPUs in some games that could be skewing some of the results as well...... but as it stands, the 2400Gs IGPU is definitely not outperforming a GTX 750 TI.

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21:11 Apr-13-2018

I have done that search as well and really that is the only video that comes up cause after that video was for the 2200G and remember like i said a lot of people are still using 2nd and 3rd gen i core processors and sure maybe a few that is on a 4th gen which most people on YouTube will be using a 6th, 7th or 8th gen i core processor in their tests and again for the 2400G the CPU and iGPU can be overclocked as well.
I just did a search all are just images and graphs and still using an i3 8100 which i do not see one video showing someone with

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21:17 Apr-13-2018

An i3 2100/3220 or i5 2400/3470 because remember i said building a newer system and you can say "oh they can upgrade to the i3 8100" but really if you think about it they could build that Ryzen system instead and sell their old system to get a GTX 1050 Ti or a RX 570 as well which the performance would be a lot higher as well so that person could be playing their PUBG on higher settings instead and get roughly 35 to 50 fps (cause that game is still not optimized).

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21:53 Apr-13-2018

I don't disagree at all.... the 2400G is an excellent value, it's got a great IGPU that can hold you over until you can afford a dedicated GPU, and when later paired with something a bit more substantial like a GTX 1050 TI or RX 570, it would be a killer combo.

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12:11 Apr-12-2018

I've had everything every I7 since 4770K, and even some X99/X299 CPUs like 5820K, 5960X, 7800X and 7820X. I also tried Ryzen 1700, was not happy with its performance on 1440P with a 1080TI.


Now I got a binned 8700K which is delidded. Easily runs 5.0-5.3 ghz passive with a MO-RA3.


Now the bottlenecking issues I had with a 7700K and 1700 no longer an issue as I've sold my 1080TI during the mining craze and I'm currently stuck to a 1060 3GB on 1440P... Does a impressive job, but I will upgrade when the newer GPUs come out, maybe not the highest end.

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09:57 Apr-13-2018

1060's are great... ofc they will age in times to come but those run every single title with 60 fps on very high-ultra settings.
I paired mine to 6500 and my friend paired his to R5 1500x and both systems hold pretty well.

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09:58 Apr-13-2018

Nowdays i kinda wish for 6 core i5 tho;.... :D

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10:31 Apr-13-2018

1060s are sure great, but not that great for 1440P.


I asked my father if I could borrow his 1080Ti since mining isen't worth it at the moment, so that's nice.

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10:40 Apr-12-2018

Intel: Higher clock speed
AMD: CORES AND THREADS!!!

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13:41 Apr-12-2018

AMD's clock speeds are limited by the process node, Intel has released 4 architectures on the 14nm(and improvements) so far, Broadwell originally was clocked really low as well on the 14nm.

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01:00 Apr-11-2018

I won't be upgrading my cpu and motherboard for a while sadly but can't wait for me to be able to as I need a new case as this one is all dented.

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20:51 Apr-11-2018

"I won't be upgrading my cpu and motherboard for a while sadly." Pffft, man I wish I had your cpu. You're good for some years to come with it.

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11:16 Apr-18-2018

You still have about a good 2 years with your CPU still until it becomes a real need to upgrade unless you just plan on playing older and non demanding games then you will be fine for a long time.

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16:51 Apr-09-2018

It's difficult keep in mind the i5's when you could have the R5 2600 multithreaded for the same price, in the other hand the i7 looks better than the R7 atleast for gaming.
I'm thinking of upgrade my 4430 for the R5 2600

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18:38 Apr-08-2018

if you're serious about gaming then go with the intel cpu

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20:49 Apr-08-2018

Serious gamers can go with AMD too

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01:32 Apr-09-2018

Intel® Core™ i7-8700K Processor
ASUS ROG Maximus X Formula LGA1151
G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200
EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN X 12GB GAMING
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G2, 80+ GOLD 1000W, Fully Modular, 10 Year Warranty
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have

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04:04 Apr-09-2018

Are you for real bragging here right now?

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16:30 Apr-12-2018

TClanWolf I will only believe he has that once he verifies his system on here because really i could say something like i have a "core i9 7900X with a Asus TUF x299 Mark 2 32gb DDR4 G.SKILL Aegis Thermaltake SP-1200M with a MSI Radeon RX Vega 56 in Crossfire" just to try and make myself look cool so really him saying that is not that believable without proof.

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10:33 Apr-09-2018

So i am serious only if i have the best PC and i play with 144hz? Ryzen is good enough for gaming and editing.

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20:54 Apr-08-2018

If you're "serious about gaming" then you know enough about the hardware to know that there isn't enough of a difference between Ryzen and Coffe Lake in gaming performance to even warrant making such a statement..... any of the CPUs in the above poll will be great in a gaming rig for YEARS to come when paired with a good GPU.

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21:18 Apr-08-2018

@ConradAz
Coffeelake(Intel) gets only 0-10%(15% in super intel optimized games) more FPS than Ryzen(AMD) and in both cases, you'd be getting more than a hundred fps with a good enough GPU, so it does NOT matter...


On the other hand intel and their motherboards cost more, you need at least a 60$ 3rd party cooler to cool properly an intel i5 or i7 CPU let a lone overclock and they heat like ovens...

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02:53 Apr-09-2018

Intel® Core™ i7-8700K Processor
Corsair Hydro Series, H150i PRO
ASUS ROG Maximus X Formula LGA1151
G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200
EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN X 12GB GAMING
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G2, 80+ GOLD 1000W

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04:08 Apr-09-2018

So somehow you seem to think we care what you're running and that by listing your rig it somehow validates your opinion and makes you a "serious gamer"? LOL This guy! XD

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07:19 Apr-09-2018

The least he could do is Validate it lol. Not sure what he's trying to prove though.

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08:18 Apr-09-2018

You KNOW he's probably mumbling to himself right now "They're just jealous!" xD

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04:51 Apr-09-2018

Others: "Your argument is wrong due to sensible reasons like so and so...|


ConradAz: "Intel® Core™ i7-8700K Processor
Corsair Hydro Series, H150i PRO
ASUS ROG Maximus X Formula LGA1151
G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200
EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN X 12GB GAMING
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G2, 80+ GOLD 1000W"

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04:52 Apr-09-2018

@ConradAz You'd go miles with that logic mate...

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07:50 Apr-09-2018

I really have no clue what happened to this comment section. O_O


Now IDK what the specs are for, but ok... specs... If you want an opinion on them, the PSU is poorly balanced, way too much power, a 600W PSU will be more than plenty enough and a poor GPU choice, gtx 1080ti clocks higher and costs less, with an overpriced and underperforming cooler to many other cheaper ones. The rest is good.

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12:16 Apr-12-2018

Obviously someone who haven't tested many CPUs.


The Ryzen 1700 even OCed is really bottlenecking a 1080Ti on 1440P (BF1). The 8700K/7800X/7820X really smashed the Ryzen trough the ground in that game.


The I7 7700K at 5 ghz also had bottlenecking issues in BF1. So 6 cores + is the way to go when paired with a powerful GPU.


And yes, I have actually tested these CPUs and even more.


Get rid of the fanboyism that is going on here. The fact is that AMD have a really good value, but Intel is the one who deliver incredible performance. It all depends on your wallet and both is equally as good if you play a high framecount.

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13:40 Apr-12-2018

The R7 1700 is NOT bottlenecking the gtx 1080ti at all, in no game does it reach 100% usage... do NOT mistake worse performance due to poor optimization with worse performance due to a CPU limitation(bottleneck).

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22:30 Apr-12-2018

Go and test it yourself then.


I have.

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23:24 Apr-12-2018

@GreedyMuffin If the CPU isn't being pushed to 100% usage(or very close to it) on any of its cores, then it's NOT bottlenecking, the performance difference is due to other reasons... I've seen the benchmark comparisons and the reviews, the CPU is simply NOT being utilized properly, none of the cores are even being pushed past 50% usage... Psycho is entirely correct here, it's got nothing to do with a bottleneck and EVERYTHING to do with poor optimization in the game, and in the Windows OS itself

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07:43 Apr-13-2018

@TClawWolf
Just to point out, Windows 10 has been optimized for Ryzen as much as it has been for intel( I say intel, because their last 8 generation of CPUs have 95% the same optimization and really architecture to work with, just scaled up with slightly more instructions).

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07:44 Apr-13-2018

The problem is that Ryzen's pipeline is brand new and games take 3-5 years to be made, plus their engines as well and AMD started shipping Ryzen to developers in late 2016 early 2017, so add a minimum of 3 years for games that were started in 2016/2017 to be optimized for Ryzen and that means that until late 2019 or early 2020 even if Zen2 and Zen3 are better than what intel has to offer, chances are that games will still run better on intel.


Very few developers will start optimizing for a brand new/newer architecture once they are well into the development of the game.

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14:08 Apr-08-2018

Going to get a new 2nd gen ryzen and pair it with my spare 970 for a build for my dinneroom. In the next year i think

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16:04 Apr-08-2018

You really do NOT need a CPU upgrade for gaming m8.

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16:11 Apr-08-2018

i know dude thanks for your concern im building a 2nd computer :) going to try out the ryzen.

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16:25 Apr-08-2018

For a second PC definitely, go Ryzen 2.

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06:59 Apr-08-2018

Sorry but it's off topic. I know it's not the right place to say this but admin you should really update this website's interface and design. It has been so many years with this design and now it looks really old. Love the website therefore want it to look cool too. :)


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10:01 Apr-08-2018

off topic too, how do i switch inbox so i get notifications when only i got reply not new post in thread?

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18:47 Apr-08-2018

theres the admin message board for this stuff guys lol

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23:28 Apr-07-2018

I'm going full red with my next upgrade, even if intel CPUs will be a little better. It has been a long time since i had an AMD processor and i'm hoping to get one.

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06:13 Apr-08-2018

I'm thinking the same, I'm hoping AMD is still making GPUs by the time I'm ready for an upgrade..... their CPU line is doing pretty well, kinda hard to say if they'll consider it worth while to keep making their GPU line though.

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10:47 Apr-08-2018

Why wouldn't they make GPUs? Their RX 580 is a brutal card (before the GPU price spike). Vega is a great card too, even in games where NVidia is the general partner (so the optimization is for NVidia).

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11:27 Apr-08-2018

It's not that they're not good cards.... they are, it's just that gamers don't seem to be interested in them and aren't buying them, check the Steam hardware surveys, and you'll see how tiny the percentage of gamers using AMD GPUs is.....crypto miners have been the main source of income for the Radeon division lately, and that's drying up fast.
That's why I'm unsure how much longer AMD will remain interested in producing GPUs..... they can't just keep making them on hopes and dreams alone!

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13:44 Apr-08-2018

Well better if they stay at GPU market. If not, Nvidia will have no competition

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17:25 Apr-08-2018

I completely agree Archterror, any market that limits you only to one option isn't a market at all..... It's not that I don't want AMD to continue making GPUs, I definitely do, they make some excellent GPUs..... I'm just not sure how much longer they'll be able to afford to stay in the GPU game.

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01:42 Apr-10-2018

You've got a nice setup already. Perahps in the extended future you can upgrade. It's always best to wait until there are significant upgrade options available.

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17:01 Apr-12-2018

I plan on doing that in the future after when i build my system cause i just love Intel anyways but my plan is building a backup streaming system for older games which is why i decided going with the 2200G for my back up system and when i say older games just mainly 2013 games and below and/or not demanding games at all.

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20:07 Apr-12-2018

Wait why have a r5 2400g and a gtx 1050ti?

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20:42 Apr-12-2018

The 2400g competes with a gt 1030. The 1050 ti is faster. He probably chose to get the igpu because it cost the same as the 1400.

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22:07 Apr-12-2018

but the r5 1400 is soldered and the 2400g uses toothpaste...

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12:59 Apr-13-2018

That "toothpaste" doesn't matter, it is low end chip. It isn't targeted to overclockers or anyone seeking high end performance. It is made for average Joe who is on budget and won't give it more than 1050Ti or 1060, for which you don't really need overclock. And they still do ok overclocking wise.

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16:12 Apr-13-2018

well the problem is that it reaches quite high temperatures with the stock cooler at stock clock speeds, let alone when you overclock and that's with perfect air-flow XD

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01:56 Apr-16-2018

You guys do know i have this CPU as a test thing because i was originally thinking of building a system with it and also was planning on originally selling my old system with the 1050 Ti and get a RX 570 instead.
Besides the performance for the 2400G with a 1050 Ti from what i have seen does go pretty well together but now ever since they brought out the new 1151 (300 series) boards and the i5 8500 i am just going to go for that and sure it might cost me about 60$ more but it is better performance for what i pretty much end up doing.

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12:57 Apr-13-2018

It really depends on the price, 2400G as CPU slides just a bit below 1500X, so if you can find it below or about 1500X price, it is worth buy, especially if it is closer to 1400. Also unlike 1500X it comes with cooler. And as far as I have seen 2200G and 2400G for now don't have non-G version announced.

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02:03 Apr-16-2018

Also i like to mention that i do find Ryzen is doing better which is why the 2200G would be a good backup system and from what i saw for emulation wise is that Ryzen chip would be more than enough and when i say emulation i mean for arcade emulation because i have seen people using the RX Vega 8 for games like Tekken 5 and it was running pretty smooth (note they did that test on 720p but remember arcade game) and just so you know the main reason why my profile says there is a 2400G is to mainly see if the chip can run what i want to run.

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02:05 Apr-16-2018

instead of always clicking on for parts on the "Can i run it" selection which is why it shows it is not verified and really the second i do build up my system it will be verified as well.

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22:40 Apr-07-2018

I don't have clue which one would be best. I do know I have no plans to upgrade my R7 1700x for a few years.

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00:54 Apr-08-2018

same here, I'm still very much at the point still of what am I going to do with all this CPU horsepower

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04:29 Apr-12-2018

Plenty of life left in our cpus. I would wait until at least the ryzen 3000 series.

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17:04 Apr-12-2018

For processors i find it is good to replace it every 2 to 3 generations (if you have the money) because i think the 2700X will only be like what a 10% performance boost over your 1700X which i find you want that 20% to 40% boost when upgrading.

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20:59 Apr-12-2018

A good upgrade is when it's 80% and above faster than your current one, for the same money and if possible the same power consumption and heat output.

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19:14 Apr-16-2018

The only way you would be getting an 80% performance boost if you were using something from like 9 years ago like a AMD Phenom II X6 1055T as an example or something similar to that in which that person might have already upgraded to the 1st gen Ryzen chips or went for a 6th/7th gen i core processor instead.
When upgrading anything in your system it is better to go for the sweet spots which is actually between 20% and 40% because lets say in 10 years they make something that would be an 80% boost that person would still go for the older tech

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19:19 Apr-16-2018

because it would also cost a lot cheaper and not be too different because lets say in 10 years they come out with 6th gen Ryzen's why spend so much money when you could spend about half the price for one gen before and lose like what 7% performance because this is the way the market is when there is more and more people out there buying used parts and really a friend of mine recently bought a GTX 780 for 300$ Canadian which performs like a 3gb GTX 1060 which at the time when he bought the card the 1060 was almost 600$.

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19:23 Apr-16-2018

So really a good upgrade isn't waiting like 10 years it is more like waiting every single 4 years to upgrade really unless you're the type that wants to always be updated then go nuts it is your money anyways but for me when it comes down to building or upgrading i always wait at least every second generation just so i know i am getting what i paid for and also i do end up selling my parts and/or system afterwards for a lot less value so the next person can use something well worth it for them.

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21:11 Apr-16-2018

The problem is that hardware improvements have stagnated so that Nvidia and AMD and Intel do NOT invest in new technology, but keep on beating the same architectural design with minor upgrades every generation... and now they plan to make a bigger gap between generations...


30% is when the performance difference begins to be noticeable unless the task you do takes days... so yeah...

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03:18 Apr-17-2018

All of these companies says "30%" but really when you watch a bunch of people not working for Intel/Nvidia/AMD test out these newer parts you can tell the gap isn't that far away because going back to the Phenom II X6 1055T that processor lasted till like what 2017 before it started to become a bottleneck for most of the newer GPU's out there and that was like what a 2008 processor so honestly i find the performance difference between a 1700X and a 2700X will be at most 15% which isn't that bad but not really an upgrade from a 1700X more like an upgrade

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03:21 Apr-17-2018

Continuing post.... From a FX 8350 or an i5 4590 which those are the people these processors would be targeting.

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21:45 Apr-07-2018

R5 2600 6core 12 thread for gaming budget

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17:27 Apr-12-2018

Well right now the real gaming budget Ryzen processor is the 2400G because the iGPU in that one is like owning a underclocked RX 550 but still performs a lot better than a GTX 750 Ti and look at how much this build will cost as well https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zn3Rkd which does include a monitor and gaming keyboard/mouse but if that person owns those already it will only cost 565.33$.

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17:33 Apr-12-2018

Also remember that 199$ for the 2600 could just be the predicted price right now so we don't know what the retail price will be on release because remember every store does charge differently.

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21:15 Apr-07-2018

That Ryzen R5 2600X looks enticing to me or the R7 2700. I can't say I care much for Intel any longer.

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20:36 Apr-07-2018

is my i5 7500 worth to upgrade to RayZen 2600 ??

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21:00 Apr-07-2018

if you so something besides gaming like content creation etc then yes if not then no

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21:47 Apr-07-2018

r5 2600 6 core 12 thread VS i5 7500 4core


get r5 much worth today game needed more core cpu for gaming

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08:32 Apr-08-2018

With your current setup it is not a good upgrade to do

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11:10 Apr-08-2018

Maybe not, but remember i5-7500 is quad core and I have seen that this CPU often hits almost 100% in some demanding games, leaving almost no room for other stuff. It is best to get at least 6 cores R5 2600 for best experience.

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11:24 Apr-08-2018

I agree that it slightly hits performance but his 8GB RAM and especially the 950 2GB need to be upgraded first before ANY cpu upgrade should be considered

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14:54 Apr-08-2018

Personally, I wouldn't do it. Even in games optimized for more than 4 cores the 7500 performs well enough. I would wait until there is some tangible evidence that 4 cores aren't enough.

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20:18 Apr-07-2018

Don't even know if I want to upgrade from 6800k. Unfortunately I lost the silicon lottery and can't push mine much above 4.2Ghz with liquid cooling. It's such a hassle changing MB +CPU. Ill stick with what I've got I think.

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20:46 Apr-07-2018

Nah dude, you're good. you got 12 threads in a fairly modern CPU, I think you can hold off on an upgrade for a while.

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20:12 Apr-07-2018

I still wonder if i should upgrade from my 4790k :/

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20:28 Apr-07-2018

If your CPU is doing everything you need it to do well, then NO, no need for an upgrade.

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20:43 Apr-07-2018

^ What he said.


That said, I personally think you are set for another 2 - 3 years with that processor. 4 years might be pushing it.


Ryzen looks good right now but still not powerful enough for me to consider it worth upgrading to at this time.


Maybe Ryzen 3 or Ryzen 4. I want 50% minimum though 100% better is preferred.

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22:24 Apr-07-2018

Finally, someone who is NOT satisfied with 10% performance improvements.... 80% should be the minimum performance increase per upgrade and really per generation for the same money...

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23:49 Apr-07-2018

Well to be fair, CPUs don't improve or even need to improve as much as GPUs in the same time frame. Also there are professional speedrunners and as I learned from one, some skips are framerate bound meaning you need to be at or above a certain number of FPS for the trick to work so I can understand why they would need every little boost.


As for me, I have no reason to need something like that.

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10:22 Apr-08-2018

The problem is you are thinking games only... XD

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12:01 Apr-08-2018

Because that's mainly what I do and because that is what these processors are mainly intended for. Mainly.

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16:06 Apr-08-2018

Nah no CPU is meant for gaming, their marketing maybe, but the CPUs and all hardware is meant for work.


As I've said people that actually work with hardware(or anything else in any other sphere) do NOT need marketing, people who are to be entertained need marketing.

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23:52 Apr-07-2018

With the 1070 and your CPU OC'ed, there won't be an upgrade going for Ryzen, it will actually be slower in games. If you use your PC only for gaming then you will set for at least a few more years. I would wait for next year's cpu's.

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16:09 Apr-08-2018

Actually Ryzen CPUs are slightly faster than DDR3 intel CPUs at the same clock speeds, but still he does NOT need a CPU upgrade for gaming.

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19:48 Apr-07-2018

My opinion is no one with ryzen should upgrade to these,just wait for zen 2 7nm.

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19:10 Apr-07-2018

As far as I can say, on Intel side, there are two CPUs which make most sense, i5 8400 + B360 motherboard. Or i7 8700k + Z370 board. Otherwise I would say Ryzen is best bang for the buck. Either R5 1400 for budget or R5 1600. I wouldn't really recommend quad core for anything more than eSports machine.

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19:14 Apr-07-2018

As of Ryzen 2000. Personally I kind of lean R5 2600X to be better bang for the buck, since it now has stock cooler, unlike 1600X. But we do need to see reviews to confirm it. But it is likely to be either 2600 or 2600X. R7 for gaming still feels like gains won't be that big from R5 2600 to R7 2700, X or not.

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19:17 Apr-07-2018

Other than that, Intel is only better for extreme high FPS with 1080Ti at 1080p, like if you are pushing for 240FPS on 240hz monitor, or well above 144FPS on 144hz. But that is not what majority needs. And programing trends are changing to more multicore friendly, since 4c8t, 6c6t or 6c12t is far more budget friendly.

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