DICE Responds to Battlefield V Criticism - Female Characters 'Here to Stay'

Written by Stuart Thomas on Mon, May 28, 2018 12:47 PM
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If you saw the reveal of Battlefield V last week, news of its controversy was hard to miss. Not because of anything we saw in regards to gameplay, which probably should’ve been the talking point, but the seemingly widespread anger over the inclusion of female characters in a game which promises to tackle the untold stories of World War 2.

Like a red rag to a bull, it didn’t take long for a few folks to suddenly care about historical authenticity in a series which has seen people instantly healed with a syringe, or able to jump from a plane and land in a tank. Nope, having a female in the game is the hill a few people chose to die on, and DICE has responded to this criticism in kind, reminding fans that “female playable characters are here to stay.”

DICE general manager, Oskar Gabrielson, took to Twitter in an attempt to settle the matter, saying “It's been two days since the reveal of Battlefield V so I wanted to share some thoughts on the reactions so far. It sure seems we created a lot of excitement, and also some questions on a lot of different topics.

“First, let me be clear about one thing. Player choice and female playable characters are here to stay. We want Battlefield V to represent all those who were a part of the greatest drama in human history, and give players choice to choose and customize the characters they play with.

“Our commitment as a studio is to do everything we can to create games that are inclusive and diverse. We always set out to push boundaries and deliver unexpected experiences. But above all, our games must be fun!”

The Battlefield series has consistently been a series about wild, chaotic fun rather than any attempt at genuine authenticity, and complaining about this doesn’t really achieve more than poking holes in Inglorious Basterds’ historical authenticity. Going forward, it sounds as if DICE is going to be leaning even more heavily into playable female characters, potentially as a kickback against the #NotMyBattlefield movement.

Hopefully, once E3 2018 rolls around in a couple of weeks we can move the discussion onto more prescient topics, namely how Battlefield V actually intends to improve the series from a gameplay perspective. The reveal trailer was a little worrying, although it appears to be a far cry from actual gameplay. Fingers crossed that DICE can deliver.

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10:55 May-30-2018

As long as some classes aren't limited to female only I'm fine with it.

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02:50 May-31-2018

You can change your gender for all classes as far as I know so there are no gender-locked classes.

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17:13 May-29-2018

The fact is that, the whole Battlefield franchise has always been known to be realistic, to-the-point and scales well with real life. This time, it has been pushed too far. The devs are experimenting a bit too much here. Why bring features that people could not even imagine back in the 1940s? A certain sense of realism is what enabled Battlefield games to come alive. Here it's excessive.

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08:56 Jun-04-2018

How is Battlefield realistic? Let's call getting out of a plane followed by destroying a helicopter with a rpg and then returning to it realistic. It's a game, and you play a game for fun, not for being historically accurate.

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16:01 Jun-05-2018

thank you, you hit the nail right on the head.

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14:09 May-29-2018

no problem with females or their bionic arms. problem is that the trailer way too dull to be even considered as a BF game.

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08:55 May-29-2018

its not about the females its about female cyborgs with robotic hands and probably legs

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08:57 Jun-04-2018

Female cyborgs with robotic hands? Okay. It's a primitive prosthetic, not some futuristic crap. Let's argue about a prosthetic being too advanced but not caring about airplanes or tanks or even weapons. Jesus.

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16:02 Jun-05-2018

you and I should be friends :D

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02:04 May-29-2018

i don't care about women being in the game after all we had them since bf4 (campaign) my problem with the trailer was it didn't show a battlefield game

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01:01 Jun-03-2018

I just hate women

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00:59 May-29-2018

I know i going to get downvoted for this, but


Im I also going to have to get my nails done in this new battlefield game. LOL

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23:13 May-28-2018

how many female gamers r here on GD ? and if u r one plz give ur humble opinion on this issue. this might help cool the fire a bit.

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14:18 May-29-2018

I doubt many women would want to be part of this comments section tbh

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21:26 May-28-2018

The issue DICE is not female characters. We are on board with female protagonists.
The problem lies in developing a good game with meaningful content without live service monetization being the center of focus rather than the game itself.


Build a good game, then defend females, males, aliens and whoever you so please.

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21:07 May-28-2018

Real men don't care about bull like this. We've got bigger ing issues to deal with; LIFE!
You boys need to grow up.

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21:18 May-28-2018

modern day life in Europe, North America, most of Asia, most of South America and a big part of Africa is super easy.


In those cases you have food, shelter, electricity, heat and clothes for super cheap, so your life is easy. Now what you mean by life is that you want to have people that you feel good around, figure out how to make more money than needed to buy the stupid crap that you and just about everybody loves(including me for some things don't get the wrong idea).


If you are sick from a deathly/deadly disease and/or mutations, then it's NOT life you are dealing with, it's death.

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21:02 May-28-2018

I know for a fact that Russia had women soldiers during WWII, some in their air force, some in the army (notably snipers), other countries did too; India had women in their navy, Britain had an entire regiment that was deployed in combat made only of women, Australia and the US had regiments of women as auxiliary units such as the Merchant Marines, Poland had women in their military pre invasion, literally every country in WWII had women in the field in some way

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00:18 May-29-2018

Is the British regiment you refer to the 93rd Searchlights Regiment? Just curious; since they were manning AA defences, did that qualify as a unit deployed in combat?

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00:39 May-29-2018

I dont think they would be counted as a combat unit. I dont think there were really any examples in the West, in the East yes there was a decent amount but not significant enough to say they were prominent.

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02:15 May-29-2018

British Air defence counts as Britian was being attacked on its soil during the war

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18:30 May-28-2018

where is the wheel chair infantry with autism then? i wanna play as them(no pun intended)

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20:41 May-28-2018

Kinda feels like you're equating gender with disability?

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00:21 May-29-2018

Not to mention that autism is more of an emotional and social disability, not a physical one, so the joke doesn't really make sense.

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08:30 May-29-2018

More like the same thing as with emojis: Once you start supporting this notion of "diversity" and "inclusivity" - where do you stop? Once you start - there can never be a line in the sand where everyone can say with a straight face "ok, this is now representing everyone". We have hundreds upon hundreds of emojis representing different genders, religions, social statuses, jobs, etc - WHY? Should have kept them all generic yellow faces. Likewise - you start letting women and blacks into your WW2 nazi ranks (COD: WW2) and from there you've released the hypothetical craken.
Hence the joke - you wanna let me play as a woman in the frontier? How about including a handicap then too.

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11:28 May-29-2018

Heh, I think you're way overplaying the wackiness of having a female playable character there. I dunno, would you prefer the opposite, which is uniformity and segregation? Seems kinda terrible to me. I'm not the sort of person to sit around moaning that Battlefield games didn't have women previously, or any game really, but if they're in it really, really doesn't bother me. Plenty more important things to worry about than women in a game, some people need to get a grip!


As for the joke, it's a s-hite rehashed meme. It's just the same as the attack helicopter meme repeated ad infinitum by 13-year-olds. I can't imagine who's actually chuckling at it still but I do sort of pity them.

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14:42 May-29-2018

don't twist my words i'm just saying if "females can play as themselves" according to devs then why can't disabled people or the ones who have autism play as themselves it's only fair and i know it's sarcastic but where are handicaps?

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15:52 May-29-2018

From your explanation, I don't think there's any twisting of words going on. You're presenting a logical fallacy and using the notion of a wheelchair-bound autistic person as bait in a discussion on whether women belong in a war game. Let's put it this way - if Cyberpunk 2077 is announced and you play as a man, would you ask if you can also play as a disabled autistic woman, or would you just accept CDPR's decision as the status quo? Makes you wonder doesn't it.

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16:40 May-29-2018

he never twisted your words
my god Jon you just destroyed him

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18:39 May-29-2018

i don't care if there'll be womans in a historically INaccurate game i'm just asking for more options i mean why can't we have disabled people in games like SIMS? if skin and gender is a thing to bring diversity why can't other things be?

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21:52 May-29-2018

this whole thing is messed up. there were females in all branches of the military around the world in ww2. there were not and still not people with disabilities. the whole point of being in the military is being able and ready for combat. if you are unable to do that for any number of many, many reason, then you will not be allowed it. the military is not an equal opportunity employer. i have watched people that were unable to cope with the stress of air force bmt because of autism. they were processed out. so to clear this up, if a certain type of person couldnt be in the military, then they wont be represented in the game.

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22:58 May-29-2018

hmm i'm pretty sure there were people with disabilities in the armies maybe not now maybe not to that extend maybe not front lines but there were and also if u get disabled in combat u still gotta fight so it's not that unrealistic

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00:46 May-30-2018

if you are disabled, you normally get a medical discharge. you have to go in front of a medical board for them to determine if you are capable of fighting still. maybe elsewhere in the world they have it but i can tell you right now, if you want to join a u.s. military branch and you have a physical problem thats still not even considered a disability, they can and will disqualify you from entry.

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09:17 May-30-2018

why are you still wasting your time reply this troll, his point does't make any sense but he still wants to defend it . he needs help

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18:05 May-28-2018

I wish they would make a new medal of honor or remake an old one, those games were more historically accurate than anything in the battlefield series.

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18:16 May-28-2018

They might eventually make a new one but after Warfighter's failure, they took it out of rotation. I remember playing the older ones and enjoying them though.

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01:02 May-29-2018

yeah the old medal honor was great, I played Vanguard, and still this day one of the best shooters.

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17:43 May-28-2018

I want to play as an attack helicopter. I know there weren't attack helicopters in WW2 but it is a video game. Would having attack helicopters be less realistic than jumping from a jet, firing a rocket, then getting back in jet?

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18:11 May-28-2018

Yea, it really makes you wonder why this is even an issue.

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17:18 May-28-2018

So many people complaining about females and historic history need to quit it. I agree, that trailer was a terrible representation of the actual game and they would've been better off showing gameplay. Most games are meant to be fun and to express creativity, not to give you a history lesson.


I'm confused why so many are complaining about historic accuracy because as far as I know BF has never really been known for it and it would limit games in general quite a bit in turns of creativity and fun which is a game's purpose. The campaign is more likely to be accurate and MP is all about being who you want to be and how you want to play which is how it should be.

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15:29 May-28-2018

i dont understand the buzz with this topic, there were female troops but not in german side, also they were in very specific units such as snipers, i believe tank operators in russia, its not all black and white.

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16:21 May-28-2018

Absolutely and in the end of WW2 in Germany both women and children were enlisted for the army, I believe there were even pictures of Hitler handing women and children weapons XD

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21:04 May-28-2018

there were women Russian snipers, true, one was responsible for taking down Germany's top marksman

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15:28 May-28-2018

"We always set out to push boundaries and deliver unexpected experiences." I dont know a single person who plays historical games for unexpected experiences

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16:17 May-28-2018

well, they are historically accurate so far.

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17:01 May-28-2018

I dont know anyone who plays Battlefield for historic reasons either lol

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18:38 May-28-2018

Many people like me bought BF1 because it was in WW1,so you can kinda count that in historic reason,i didnt buy it just because its fun.WW1 games are rare today

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15:14 May-28-2018

Apples and oranges. Gameplay has to allow for unrealism, otherwise the game wouldnt be fun in the least. A female commando running around with a prosthetic..

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15:15 May-28-2018

arm, a cricket bat with nails on it and facepaints is purely aesthetic. And aesthetics are where you go full realism as much as possible, because thats where it

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15:16 May-28-2018

is easiest. Yes, some women did fight, but it was extremely seldom. Remember the "We can do it" poster? WW2 was where women were first en masse used in

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15:18 May-28-2018

the factory workforce. This is because the men were all out fighting, so the women had to wear trousers and work in the factories. Common knowledge.

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15:50 May-28-2018

when i read the first few lines of this article my heart sank. I thought that GD might have been the one place which understood the difference between gameplay and aesthetic realism, rather than just belittling complainers.

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14:53 May-28-2018

it just plaine stupid and immature for people to make such complaints anyway. There are so many historically inaccurate things in the game and what really gets you is gender and race?? something is wrong with your dumb head. It is just a fcuking video game ffs and who decided the game was suppose to be historically accurate?? you ?? well that is your fcucking problem.

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14:54 May-28-2018

if you hate a game so much just because it has women and black people inside, you can skip the game and go to hell, grow the fcuk up and quit whining like babies

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15:14 May-28-2018

I havent seen a single comment that bashes solely on women and black people, although they would be right to complain solely about that too. Most comments I've seen say they wouldnt have problems with women in Soviet forces,

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15:15 May-28-2018

French resistance or Yugoslav partisans. About black people, I know US army was segregated so in ww2 you couldnt see a black person in a white unit. Not sure about the French and British. But above all MOST comments are hating on the bionic

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15:19 May-28-2018

arm on that british woman. Think about it - a disabled British woman in a coat in Normandy in the summer of 1944. Does that sound plausible to you? Oh and a lot of comments are hating on rocket powered Churchill tanks.

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15:21 May-28-2018

If that was multiplayer then ok. But I dont want and am not going to pay for singleplayer (reason why I play games) with such fantasies in it. I have my right to complain about it and if you dont like it you can grow up and go to hell

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18:35 May-28-2018

Is it just me,that it seems like people who are defending BFV and criticizing people who don't like new changes are far more offensive compared to other side?

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14:19 May-28-2018

Ah... people need to realize that women fought in WW2, just NOT on the western - German-French front... on pretty much almost all other fronts women fought and prosthetic limbs have existed for centuries... just much simpler and less useful as you saw it was just a rubber with two hooks on it.

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14:38 May-28-2018

Yea it's pretty stupid, next thing you know people will complain about Lara Croft being a female archaeologist/treasure hunter haha. Some women who fought in WWII even dressed up as men so they could join, it's not the first time either. Some people just need to get their head out of their ass and realize that equality is just that, equality. Women can do what men can and men can do what women can, simple as that end of story. People are DUMB.

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15:25 May-28-2018

Today yes. Then no. Simple.

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16:17 May-28-2018

Actually, Russian women were enlisted as well in 1942 in Russia and fought until the border with Germany or was it the ex-Polish at the time one.
At the end of the war, both Women and Children were enlisted in Germany.
In defensive operations, Japanese women were enlisted and fought.
The North African front both black men and women fought as black men were used in some cases as expendable meat shields, because racism based on melanin.

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16:19 May-28-2018

eastern countries weren't just backward savages, in my country, for example, women had the same everything as a man, since the late 19th and early 20th century and even when there was a patriarchal norm, nobody forced them or anything, it was more of a "should" than a "must". And consider that until 1878 we were under the Ottoman ruling, so yeah...

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18:28 May-29-2018

What part of the Union Jack on a Chruchill tank and Thompson toting British soldiers seems Russian to you? Literally everyone acknowledges Eastern European female soldiers and many even romanticise them. But the fact is that there were no

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18:31 May-29-2018

frontline women in western armies in European theather of war. Germans, Soviets, Japanese all used women for combat in the acts of desperate defense. Nazis used children, the well known "Hitler's jugend". Does that mean we should also get

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18:32 May-29-2018

to play as and/or kill German children in Battlefield V? Where do you draw the line? All those countries mobilized women and children only when war came to their own soil.

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18:15 May-28-2018

Whats up with this downvoting, are the idiots on gd as well?

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20:01 May-28-2018

Is it just now that you are noticing it? XD
I'm usually downvoted to hell for no reason as nobody even leaves a comment to state why XD

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23:03 May-28-2018

Yea I've seen that, even Jon told me you have a following of people just negging you haha. Guess the sexists are here downvoting.

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13:18 May-28-2018

I was disappointed because there was no realism. Battlefield 1 proved that the franchise could portray the intensity and dreadfullness of war.

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14:16 May-28-2018

bf1 was ww2 pretending to be ww1 XD

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