Rumour: AMD Radeon RX 3000 Series Inbound - RX 3080 Competes with RTX 2070 for $249

Written by Neil Soutter on Wed, Dec 5, 2018 5:21 PM

Get your salt ready because we’ve got a heck of a rumour for you. Fresh from AMD CEO Lisa Su claiming Team Red will be ready to fight back in a big way in 2019 comes this leak - the AMD Radeon RX 3000 series.

If true, it would be a tiny bit hilarious. Oneupmanship in its purest form as it outmaneuvers the GeForce RTX 2000 series, in nomenclature at least.

The leaked comes courtesy of AdoredTV, and we’d recommend you put roughly as much faith in it as Melania Trump puts in her hubby’s fidelity. But, it feels almost brazen enough, so outlandish, that it could possibly be true though. It’s the sort of insanity you don’t make up because it sounds too daft to be correct.

Onwards then, to the AMD Radeon RX 3000 graphics cards themselves. The leak alleges 7nm Navi will arrive inside three graphics cards early in 2019 - the Radeon RX 3080, Radeon RX 3070, and the Radeon RX 3060. The naming is odd, very odd, and would mean AMD skipped the 1000 and 2000 series entirely. However, there is a shred of sense to it. AMD’s Ryzen 3000 series processors are due to arrive next year so AMD aligning its CPU and GPU naming is plausible. It’s also a whole 1000 bigger than 2000, so take that Nvidia you wimps, you. Please come back in 2020 with the GeForce RTX 4000 series though.

AMD Radeon RX 3080 Navi 10 7nm GPU

The AMD Radeon RX 3080 will allegedly sit at the top of the pile, naturally. The RX 3080 utilises a Navi 10 GPU with 8GB GDDR6 memory and a 150W TDP. If AMD has abandoned the HBM memory experimentation that can only be a good thing. Performance is expected to be in the region of the GeForce RTX 2070 and the GeForce RTX 1080, offering speed some 15% faster than a Vega 64.

And the price?

$249.

After Su’s earlier words, those hoping for competition at the enthusiast tier may be a little disappointed in what this card offers, but at that price it would mean these cards are going to absolutely fly off the shelves. $250 is an absolute steal for anything that can even come close to the GeForce RTX 2070’s performance.

AMD Radeon RX 3070 Navi 12 7nm GPU

Moving down the pecking order, we have the Radeon RX 3070. According to the leak, this will use a full-fat Navi 12 GPU and will also have 8GB GDDR6 memory but a lower TDP of 120W. The Radeon RX 3070’s performance is anticipated to compete with the GeForce GTX 1070.

How much will the AMD Radeon RX 3070 cost?

$199.

AMD Radeon RX 3060 Navi 12 7nm GPU

And lastly, we come to the Radeon RX 3060. Bottom of the heap but still with huge potential, the RX 3060 uses a cut-down Navi 12 GPU with 4GB GDDR6 memory. It has a TDP of 75W meaning no power connectors are required, it’s powered entirely from the PCIe slot. Performance the Radeon RX 3060 is expected to be on par with the GeForce GTX 1060 but it’s a comparative snip at $129.

Now, there’s a whole lot of conjecture going on here, and none of it means anything if it isn’t true. But if it is, well, AMD has some highly affordable graphics cards on its hands with formidable performance. Nvidia would need to aggressively discount the price of its current line-up in order to compete with this offering. Navi having mainstream pricing does fall exactly into line with the past year of rumours though, and these specs also line up nicely with what could, or I guess should, be used in the upcoming generation of consoles.

  GPU Memory TDP Competitor Price
AMD Radeon RX 3060 Navi 12 4GB GDDR6 75W GTX 1060 $129
AMD Radeon RX 3070 Navi 12 8GB GDDR6 120W GTX 1070 $199
AMD Radeon RX 3080 Navi 10 8GB GDDR6 150W RTX 2070 $249

Roll up then, we'd love to hear your thoughts on this one. Do you believe the leak is true? If it is, what does this all mean for Nvidia and AMD's respective fortunes? Share your thoughts below!

Our favourite comments:

I am very impressed with the TDP vaules. The only problem I have with AMD cards is the power draw. But seeing this, I am very impressed

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The only thing that caught my attention is the RX 3060, 129$ announced price and fully powered by a motherboard PCI express! Amazing!

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18:55 Dec-09-2018

I believe you meant the rtx 2080?


And the naming is not odd at all, remember the second xbox being called 360? Because they couldn't release an xbox 2 while playstation were at the number 3. It's all about numbers.

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21:46 Dec-18-2018

Then why the current xbox is named xbox one?

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08:23 Dec-08-2018

I only hope that the game will have better optimization to support amd. I just read on reddit that people who have amd and intel hd playing csgo gets constant crash. but even though this is a very nice to read. hopdfully this rumor will be true becuase every gamer here Is the winner.

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16:06 Dec-08-2018

I ran csgo on about 4 different AMD cards now, none suffered any crashes. The problem is new AMD cards don't run CS;GO well because the devs and AMD themselves don't bother optimizing for an old title like CS:GO. It runs, I get 300 FPS (My old R9 380 was getting that at 1080p) but, it should be much higher.

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07:02 Dec-08-2018

Looking forward to when ARM comes into the fold.

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23:38 Dec-06-2018

Not going to lie, the concept of having what is in essence a GTX 980 (GTX 1060 performance with 4GB of memory) with faster memory, all running straight off of the mother board, absolutely blows my mind.

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12:11 Dec-07-2018

also basically a 480 that you can squeeze into a thinner laptop without thermals and power going out the window, imagine using a VR headset with a laptop that weighs under 6 pounds

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16:50 Dec-06-2018

I'd really like a LP version of that 3060!

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14:36 Dec-06-2018

RX 3060 looks like a good upgrade from my 1050 Ti if it's performance is similar to 1060 6GB.

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15:03 Dec-06-2018

i will recommend you to wait for atleast 2 years for better upgrade.

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15:31 Dec-06-2018

Nah! Get the 3070 instead. It would be much better in long run.

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11:05 Dec-06-2018

Why is AMD not making a GPU that can compete with 1080 or the 1080TI variant?

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11:13 Dec-06-2018

well, these are the mid-tier mass-consumer friendly variants - or in other words, the cards that bring the most sales figures.
And technically, the way they compare the RX 3080 with the RTX2070 is technically the performance equivalent of GTX 1080.
I'm sure they have other more powerful GPUs planned down the line of this next GPU gen

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11:49 Dec-07-2018

If they make a dual-gpu they could technically win the high end crown. The only problem I see with that is the Crossfire support in games.

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10:35 Dec-06-2018

AMD Zen 2 leaked shows Ryzen 3600x boosting to 5Ghz(Holy Sh.t) with 8cores and 16threads!!!!!!!

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09:01 Dec-06-2018

if this is true insta buying AMD Radeon RX 3080 for my 144hz freesync monitor

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09:07 Dec-06-2018

For the low price, might even make sens to think about crossfire too

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09:25 Dec-06-2018

Agreed, I'm gonna jump to team AMD!

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11:15 Dec-06-2018

well, either if you go team RED or GREEN, for sure NVIDIA will give out some more affordable performance beasts as well, so I call this win-win for everyone
Although if you're using indeed a free-sync monitor, makes sens to go with AMD

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08:18 Dec-06-2018

thinking back from 2 years ago, the pricing & performance boost was kind of similar:


RX460 (-120 $) - somewhere between the R9 370 & R9 380 / GTX960 -isch performance,
RX470 (170 - 190$) - close to GTX 970 performance
RX480 (220 - 250$) - competing with the GTX1060 with almost GTX980-ish performance.


I think this is reasonable & very plausible.
One advise though, again based on the previous gen's release, after the first AIB cards come out, buy then!

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08:22 Dec-06-2018

...because in the following half year + you'll definitely see a price increase, so don't wait if you want to upgrade, I doubt Nvidia would come-up with a more attractive offer any time soon after that

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08:09 Dec-06-2018

AMD going after those sweet-spots once again. They are going to have a bumper 2019 if these are indeed true. Anyway, I laughed so hard at this --> "we’d recommend you put roughly as much faith in it as Melania Trump puts in her hubby’s fidelity. But, it feels almost brazen enough, so outlandish, that it could possibly be true though. It’s the sort of insanity you don’t make up because it sounds too daft to be correct." Cheeky you, I love it!

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12:01 Dec-07-2018

He's got talent. No question :)

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07:52 Dec-06-2018

well if AMD actually pull this off it'll be them Ryzen over the competition all over again (i know i know but i just had to do it)

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07:45 Dec-06-2018

Yes, I detest Nvidia's Prideful High Prices.
Cheers for something affordable and better performance from AMD

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07:00 Dec-06-2018

Hey babe, take a walk on the red side.

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05:55 Dec-06-2018

i really hope the RX 3060 stays close to the msrp.

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09:31 Dec-06-2018

don't expect any of them to stay @ that price for too long - I suggest you buy the very first cards (from AIB partners with decent coolers ofc) as soon as they release, even @ higher than the MSRP price, cause soon after that, the price is gonna rise even higher

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13:44 Dec-07-2018

sad to hear this, But the Mining craze seems to be decreasing due to the crypto market.

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03:38 Dec-06-2018

HYPE 100

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03:21 Dec-06-2018

I'd say these are more GTX competitors rather than RTX, since...no raytracing... which the 2070 does. Just nit-picking.

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03:34 Dec-06-2018

well competitor in perfomances not features

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04:07 Dec-06-2018

That would then be a 1080. A 2070 has more features (raytracing and AI) and the performance can only be compared IF those features are ignored. In my mind a 1080 is the better pick here. But of course it makes it sound better if it competes with brand new cards, rather than a card from 2016 :)


Kinda like when AMD were comparing their Ryzen to a 6900K, saying how this was the AMD's fast answer to Intel's "first 8 core CPU" - the 6900K - while completely ignoring the 5960X from 2014. Having an answer to a 2016 chip in 2017 sounds better than competing with a 2014 chip in 2017 :)
(what was funny to me was that the 5960X was still faster than Ryzen Gen 1 chips...)

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09:06 Dec-06-2018

considering the price in the first 1800x was 6800k range but still ryzen was faster in productivity maybe not in gaming but now 2gen its faster at same clock speeds then haswell or brodwell-e

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10:36 Dec-06-2018

you know what else is funny? the launch price of that 5960x ......)

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17:17 Dec-06-2018

You always pay through the nose for cutting-edge tech. Always. I don't see how the price has anything to do with anything there, considering the 5960X was a beast that it was in 2014. What you have to consider is that Intel pushed that core count into the mainstream and now you can get an 8-core CPU in the 8 and 9 series on the cheap. Is the current price better for these 8-core+ CPUS? Yep. Did they exist in 2014? Nope.

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17:45 Dec-06-2018

But Intel weren't the ones pushing 8 core chips in the mainstream. They had 8 core chips, true, but they were still ludicrously expensive compared to their 4 core ones and not really affordable by the average user. Once AMD actually challenged that with 8 core 1st Gen Ryzens at 300$, we've finally stared seeing Intel making their 4+ core chips more approachable to the average consumer. Without Ryzen, Intel would most probably still push 4 core CPU over 4+ core ones.

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20:14 Dec-06-2018

What you're describing here is just the normal everyday market, lol.


New tech comes out > the company behind the tech milks it while it can > someone else introduces a competing product > prices fall as the race begins...


Again, I don't see where the complaints are. It's business as usual. Bleeding edge tech being expensive and then getting cheaper as competition kicks in.

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22:59 Dec-06-2018

Well not really. The normal everyday market, at least the way it's imagined to be, is never supposed to be a monopoly.
Complaints lie in milking the customers. It halts progression, ingenuity and the drive for creating something better, only for the sake of personal wealth.
Even though it does work the way you say it does, doesn't mean we should all just conform to it and let them ride us.

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22:59 Dec-06-2018

Making your voice heard has the potential to change things, while conforming to the standards they set can only keep the situation the same, or make it worse. Letting those screwing you to call the shots will just lead to you getting more screwed while they profit off of it.
Humans are inherently passive. We hope that someone else is going to do something instead. But if the majority has that mindset, then you only end up effectively being controlled.

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23:01 Dec-06-2018

If you're not active enough to change things for the better, or just even try, about stuff you actually care to, then you just end up being pushed around.

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23:45 Dec-06-2018

This is going to sound radical, but hear me out:
I prefer to focus my time on earning the money that allows me to buy what I want.
A radical idea, I know. It's like instead of moaning and hoping that things will change - I just go ahead and put myself in a situation where I can solve the issue on a personal level...


Lol, don't take it the wrong way either - I'd be over the moon if RTX cards were much cheaper, I really would be. That would mean that I could afford more stuff that I want. But moaning just doesn't work.
I know, some people are stuck for work, some are students, etc. I was there myself - it sucks. But what can I do about it? Not buy the cards I want because of it?

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00:59 Dec-07-2018

I'm sorry, but I just don't see real complaints as moaning. Trying to make case for something is not moaning. Hoping to change something is not the same as actively trying to change something, which is a point I made. You'll sit back and do what you do, prices will keep rising and rising, you'll keep buying and buying, because you have to, until the point comes until you can't afford to buy again. What then? I guess you just leave the job because you don't want to "moan"?

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01:10 Dec-07-2018

What, you'll just throw in the towel and say, "Well it was good while it lasted, but these generational 50%+ non justified price increases just got the better of me."
I don't know if you're missing my point on purpose or you just don't get what I mean. You require these products to keep you in business, therefore they're worthy investment for you. But what happens when the prices rise so much that you cannot find them worthwhile investments anymore?

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03:27 Dec-07-2018

I would have more sympathy with the complaining if only it wasnt indicative of a lot of things that are wrong, hidden under the guise of making things better.


People complain because there is something shiny thay they cant afford. They bring down and mock people who choose to buy said things. All to make themselves feel better.
I could be wrong but, and in a lot of ways I hope I am l

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11:00 Dec-07-2018

I don't disagree, there are certainly those people, but they're present in literally everything. Writing off everyone, even those who have legitimate concerns doesn't really help either. There are entitled pricks in both sides, but nothing will ever get solved if you write everyone having concerns as a part of a problematic group and throw them away.

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14:08 Dec-07-2018

I won't have to leave my line of work, lol. I'll just render on slower GPUs or move back to CPU rendering. I already have just an 8-core at work to render on while others upgraded to Threadrippers or those 18-core Xeons - we still get the work done and still get paid. It's really not a biggie whatsoever, dunno where you got that idea, so it might be you missing the point? :D

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14:11 Dec-07-2018

More powerful parts just make the rendering go faster. That's all. If you have projects up your a$$ then you'll need more power to churn them out quicker - but that also means you're earning a lot of money and can upgrade. If the work level is manageable by the hardware - then you churn that work out and get paid. Simple.
I could do everything I do on a GTX 1070 card. It's just that I'm fussy and don't like waiting for my renders. That's all. That and gaming, I love my PC gaming :)

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04:18 Dec-06-2018

i mean why even bother with 60fps on 144p? and worse on few 5% of effects of the entire game

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15:22 Dec-06-2018

y mean 144Hz?
and simply money bec people who bought gtx 1050 and 1050ti are in range and they will get those IF prices be like that

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09:49 Dec-06-2018

No these GPUs compete with the RTX series.

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15:22 Dec-06-2018

they do in a way

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17:20 Dec-06-2018

They do ONLY in terms of raster and compute and only with the 2070 at that. They have no AI and RT chips and that's not negotiable - it's a fact. So I say they compete with a 1080, not with a 2070, since both AMD offerings and GTX cards are on equal ground there feature-wise.
But if it makes people feel better saying "I've got a 2070 "killer" for 250 bucks" - have fun. Facts are still facts - features are missing.

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18:35 Dec-06-2018

they dont have all that but what if they have same peerfomance i mean its not like many people buy budget cards for theyr features so yea so those amd cards could be threat to rtx as well

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20:17 Dec-06-2018

I'll repeat myself one last time: RTX cards have AI and RT cores for extra features. AMD cards are coming out with the usual raster and compute capability. AMD cards can only be compared to other raster + compute cards, ergo - the GTX 1080.
Obviously the 2070 will be more expensive - it also has more tech in it...the tech that is missing in the AMD offerings...which are cheaper...because they don't have the tech...
I can't possibly make this any clearer...

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20:25 Dec-06-2018

Think of it as comparing a phone with waterproofing, a memory card slot and a high-res HDR display with a phone that has none of that, but the same CPU and RAM.
The performance will be similar, sure, but the extra features will obviously make one better than the other and, therefore, cost extra.
And you can't exactly compare them either - one is obviously better and one is obviously cheaper. If you don't need the extras - buy the cheaper one. If you do - buy the one that has them. That's as far as it goes.

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21:49 Dec-06-2018

but why pips compare 2070 with 1080 or 1080ti then? bec they will rather buy cheeper for same perfomance, they cannot compete with RTX cards as best product but they compete in profit share

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23:41 Dec-06-2018

People compare the 1080 with the 2070 because people like to compare things. Why do people compare penis sizes? Same thing.
You can only compare raster to raster, compute to compute. Add RTX and AI into the mix and a 1080 has nothing to offer and becomes impossible to compare. Likewise - so do AMD's offerings.
So everyone should save themselves the hassle and just stick to GTX 1080 comparisons, lol.

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23:42 Dec-06-2018

Like "ooh, BFV! Ok, let's test RTX performance! 60fps 1080p on the 2070 and....err...no RTX on the 1080..." - then the comparison explodes and nothing is gained xD

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01:30 Dec-07-2018

But it's not impossible to compare. You can still compare raster to raster and compute to compute. At the end you specify that their performance in this situations might be similar, better or worse, but that one has more added features which are not present in the other one which could be potential deciding factor with your purchase.
What if you have a hybrid, an electric and a traditional vehicle. You cannot compare their fuel per km spent so the comparison is invalid?

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14:16 Dec-07-2018

Good point with the cars, I'll give credit where credit is due :)


At the end of the day we know that a 2070 is pretty much on the same level as a 1080. Comparing AMD cards to a 1080 would just be easier at this point, knowing that the 2070 is on that level with raster and compute. Anything past that just becomes a bit pointless.
With a car you're right, you can't measure fuel consumption with an electric, but you can measure miles per dollar, since both cars need fuel, different that it may be (gasoline vs electricity). But the two become too different when you measure total distance driven on a full tank/charge - you can always carry fuel in the trunk, but a battery lasts only once.

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14:19 Dec-07-2018

Similar with these cards. You can go raster vs raster, compute vs compute, memory vs memory. But as soon as DLSS, AI, DXR kick in - AMD has nothing to show for and the comparison becomes a moot point. Very similar to that fancy vs budget phone comparison I talked about.


Anyway, not sure why this even lasted so long as a debate. At the end of the day people will compare the most ridiculous things for no reason and I can't stop it. I can just say what makes sense to me from a technological point of view. From there people can either take it or leave it. But the fact remains that ppl love comparing new stuff to new stuff, because comparing to old stuff makes the new product (AMD) look worse.

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17:39 Dec-06-2018

I'm kinda fine with that. If AMD wasn't planing on RT 2 or 3 years ago, and I doubt they were considering all they had was put into Zen and chiplets, we're probably not going to see any RT solutions from them in a few more years. Real time RT is still in it's very early stages, so they're not loosing much by not being in the game now. Even then, 1080 sort of performance for around, let's even say 300$, is amazing and would require decent price cuts from Nvidia to compete.

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20:21 Dec-06-2018

Oh, of course the price is pretty darn good! Though I'd argue whether it's still more worth it for some to try and find a second-hand GTX 1080 for a similar price... Nvidia being able to run Nvidia-exclusive things while AMD wouldn't be, so technically there's that bonus with Nvidia cards, all things considered...if you need them.
But otherwise, for new buyers who are brand-agnostic - these cards seem to hit the right marks!

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23:53 Dec-05-2018

Based on the image above, AMD should change their branding color to gold. It's so much nicer to look at and appeals to a human's inner desire for wealth.

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12:09 Dec-07-2018

A black and gold combo would be interesting.

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22:51 Dec-05-2018

If this rumor actually turns out to be true, I might just try AMD for a generation, see how it all measures up nowadays. 250 bucks for a rtx 2070 competitor would be well worth it.

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22:43 Dec-05-2018

I hope that AMD will compete with rtx 2080ti too.

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23:46 Dec-05-2018

They have no reason to compete with the rtx 2080ti. Not many people pay over 500$ for a graphics card.RTX 2070-GTX 1080 performance in a 250$ price is more than great.

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00:37 Dec-06-2018

Rumors have them releasing a higher end Navi part in the later half of 2019, What we're getting soon is supposedly not the full Navi die..... I'd be willing to bet though that its cutoff point will be 2080/1080 TI level performance...... but personally I don't think that's a bad thing if they can give us that level of performance for say..... under $400?

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