Rumour: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Inbound, TU116 GPU and 20% Fewer Cores Than RTX 2060

Written by Jon Sutton on Thu, Jan 24, 2019 2:14 PM

UPDATE: In yet more proof the world has finally gone mad, there is mounting evidence Nvidia absolutely is going to call its next mainstream graphics card the GeForce GTX 1660 Ti. I despair, I really do. If anyone can think of a single reason why Nvidia's graphics card is called this, please send your answers on a postcard or let us know in the comments below.

Multiple sources including HardOCP and Hexus are claiming the GeForce GTX 1660 Ti is the real deal. We had the 'alleged' Ashes of the Singularity benchmark, and we've now also got a supposed photo from a behind-closed-doors Nvidia GTX 1660 Ti reveal event in China.

Everyone's saying it's true, there's a whole lot smoke on this here fire, but the name is ludicrous enough to still cause doubt.

Anyway, I've run the leaked photo through Fotoforensics and, while I'm no expert, it definitely looks like an image with a whole lot of noise that could indicate image editing techniques, as well as razor-sharp edge down the right-hand-side of the speaker. Image noise is particularly noticeable down near the bottom of the on-stage screen. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this one though.

Whether the image is real or not though, the GeForce GTX 1660 Ti could be absolutely real regardless. HardOCP even goes so far as to claim Nvidia's new graphics card will launch on February 15th priced at $279 and will feature the specs outlined in our original story below.

Nvidia's plans don't end there as well, with reports also suggesting Nvidia is readying a GeForce GTX 1660 for $229 and a GeForce GTX 1650 for $179. The GeForce GTX 1050 Ti will then receive a price drop so it's cheaper than the GeForce GTX 1650. Unfortunately, we don't have rumoured specs for these lower-end GPUs just yet.

Original Story: 17-Jan-2019 - Rumour: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Inbound, TU116 GPU and 20% Fewer Cores Than RTX 2060

Nvidia’s mainstream graphics card is going to be dubbed the GeForce GTX 1660 Ti, according to the absolute bucketfuls of rumours doing the rounds at the moment.

I don’t think I’ve ever actually heard of a more ridiculous naming convention for a graphics card. Ever. And that’s saying something when you actually think about the nonsensical naming conventions used by Nvidia and AMD/ATI over the years.

You’d have to twist yourself in knots to perform the kind of mental arithmetics that leaves GeForce RTX 2060’s sibling to be known as the GTX 1660 Ti. 1060 Ti? Sure. GTX 2060? Why not. 1160 Ti even? Perhaps. But 1660 Ti? It’s almost one of those rumours that’s so daft it’s probably true, but I don’t think even Nvidia would attempt to confuse the market in quite such a magnificent manner.

Anyway, it appears as if this rumour originated on Videocardz and has since been perpetuated across just about every tech site imaginable. They reckon they've heard the nomenclature from three separate sources, so there is that. If it is true then Nvidia needs to give its head a wobble. There’s a lot to be said for not confusing your customer base, as Nintendo painfully found out with the Wii U. The GeForce GTX 1660 Ti would be confusing on an entirely new level, and it’s not exactly beneficial to making PC gaming a simpler, more welcoming place to be for prospective gamers.

We’ve been surprised before, and we’ll be surprised again, but we have major doubts Nvidia is heading down this route. If Team Green does, you can bet your bottom dollar it’s an active attempt to confuse the market rather than offer any sort of cohesion. There’s an argument to be made the GTX/RTX split could confuse the Average Joe,  as could rolling with the GTX 11 series alongside the RTX 20 Series. The GTX 16 Series following in the footsteps of the GTX 10 Series though.. that’s a whole other level. I can’t actually fathom how the GTX 1660 Ti name makes sense, both in the idea that it could be faster than an RTX 2060, and in how it links to Nvidia’s other naming conventions whatsoever. We would love to hear your thoughts on this.

Anyway, aside from the naming there is the subject of specs, and we’ve got rumours of them too. The, ahem, GTX 1660 Ti will allegedly feature a Turing TU116 GPU (versus TU106 GPU on the RTX 2060) with 1536 CUDA  Cores, 6GB GDDR6 memory on a 192-bit memory interface, and of course no RT or Tensor Cores, and therefore no raytracing capabilities.

It’s a little bit difficult to judge without the clock speeds available to us but the GeForce GTX 1660 Ti would have 20% fewer cores than the RTX 2060. This is quite interesting as we’d assumed Nvidia would spin off a clone of the RTX 2060, just without the RT and Tensor Cores. Instead, this lends a little more substance to the rumours and perhaps indicates Nvidia doesn’t want the GTX 1660 Ti to eat into the GeForce RTX 2060 sales in a big way.

Time will tell with this one, but what would you think if Nvidia went ahead with the GeForce GTX 1660 Ti naming? With an estimated 20% performance dip compared to the RTX 2060, and with no DXR or DLSS capabilities, how much should the GeForce GTX 1660 Ti cost?

Do you believe it's called GeForce GTX 1660 Ti?

How much do you think the GTX 1660 Ti will cost?

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03:21 Jan-26-2019

Quite frankly, if the specs and pricing are close to what's expected then I really couldn't care less WHAT they decide to call it. They could call it GTX YoMamma69 and I'd be perfectly fine with it. I've held back on upgrading for awhile now, first because the miner craze drove prices sky high, then the latest 20xx and their nonsense RayTracing were kind of terrible. If this is real, I'm in!

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02:36 Jan-25-2019

They should name it GTX 2050ti instead of GTX 1660ti. It is Turing not Pascal so it should be labeled as a 20 series instead of 10 series. A cut down 2060 without RTX hardware. imo

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10:12 Jan-25-2019

That would have been the smart way to do it, but it's Nvidia so obviously it didn't happen.

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11:16 Jan-25-2019

should it not be called 16 serie

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02:30 Jan-25-2019

If this 1660ti gets 1070 performance and costs less than $250 it will be a good deal for anyone that is running a mid-range 900 series or older card.

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17:15 Jan-24-2019

This is probably meant to more easily differentiate the non-rtx cards. But then the last two digits would still be misleading/off. You would think the (16)60Ti would be better than the (20)60, but it wouldnt be.

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16:20 Jan-24-2019

Naming it 1660ti instead of something like 1060ti is just retarded,completely retarded,it cant be named like that,or at least it better not be

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02:33 Jan-25-2019

Well they couldn't call it 1060ti because it isn't Pascal. This is Turing architecture and should be on par with a 1070 performance. Has to be named something different. I personally think it should be labeled GTX 2050ti because it is cut down from a RTX 2060.

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16:10 Jan-24-2019

I mean MSRP means nothing to Nvidia anymore... even their Founder's Edition MSRP is not met... the cheapest RTX 2060 non-reference GPU in most places in above 400$ or 400 euro(if you have VAT)... so I don't really know what to think about value when it comes to Nvidia...


I would say that if the GTX 1660Ti has gtx 1070 performance and it costs 200$ it would be great, up to 250$ it's ok, everything above 250$ is bad, as the gtx 1070 itself can now be found for 300$...


Also another thing is that 14/16/12nm GPUs are old news, 7nm GPUs is what people should be looking forward to.

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17:34 Jan-24-2019

That's utopia,considering how much every nvidia gpu costs right now.I mean the gtx1070 here is $525 and the 1070ti is $600..that's insane considering their msrp.But hey,the rtx2070 is the closest to its msrp,at around $700.That's the 780ti's original price,and I clearly remember even here it was selling at 60-70$ more at most than the msrp.Jacking up prices every generation isn't really progress if what top of the line a few years ago is midrange now(talking about the price here,not performance)

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17:38 Jan-24-2019

Well blame people for buying the gtx 1000 series... the gtx 1080 was a mid-range GPU in 2016 that was sold for 700$ MSRP and people praised it and bought it, when it should have costed 300-330$ MSRP max. The gtx 1060 was on the edge of low-end and mid-range in 2016 and it was sold for 300$ MSRP and people bought it and loved it, when it should have costed 150-175$ max... -_-


Admittedly the rtx 2000 series GPUs have much bigger die size chips and are much less overpriced than the gtx 1000 seires, but still overpriced.


Nvidia is just testing to see how high the prices can go before demand falls.

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18:19 Jan-24-2019

i agree that nvidia is testing waters with pricing but what do you propose, to sit with >5 year old gpus? with a hope that next time they will reduce the price because you as a single user didnt buy a new product.

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19:46 Jan-24-2019

A duopoly is almost as bad as a monopoly, almost, especially when one is underperforming or not appealing to certain types of customers...
We can't really do anything...

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20:50 Jan-24-2019

The technical inputs are very much appreciated Psychoman. But we cant blame folks for buying what is best for their money back then/right now. Whether that product has a large profit margin or not doesnt really matter.
When you yourself look for an upgrade this year or the next, I doubt anything but price to performance will influence your final choice.

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07:04 Jan-25-2019

Sadly we don't have a choice.

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15:37 Jan-24-2019

honestly i dont care about gpu names anymore, i just want good product at decent price. Besides nvidia made worse naming decisions for example gt 1030 ddr4, or gtx 1060 3gb/6gb...

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15:48 Jan-24-2019

sounds like you missed the point, it was gtx 1060 next is RTX 2060 and with this it would be gtx 1660


why jump from 10 to 20 and then back to 16 kinda like its more like a step backwards.
its Nvidia so i fear it will be an overprized gpu thats just a little slower than another overpriced gpu


well idk just does not make any sense to me, but ddr4 in gpu or 3gb gtx1060 really has been a bad joke from nvidia

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16:07 Jan-24-2019

Maybe they divided the numbering, GTX with 1xxx series and RTX with the 2xxx series... but then why 1660 and no 1160? what happened with those 600 other numbers?

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16:52 Jan-24-2019

how i missed the point, i said i dont care about naming scheme as it lost its logic quite a while ago, at least there is no any other 1660 ti with different specs, so its not that maliciously misleading like 1060 3gb/6gb. I think they jumped from 10 to 20 series because they wanted to make a gap as big as possible with rtx tech so not only they changed prefix but number too making gtx gpus somewhat a lot worse/older than they are, idk i dont have much knowledge in marketing.

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16:56 Jan-24-2019

So yeah its always been not about logic but about marketing how to make more $$$ its just been that way they went every new gen by adding +100 and we grew accustomed to it and now we want to apply logic to it

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17:03 Jan-24-2019

and now 1660 ti, 1660, 1650 surely looks a lot better than 10 series and i can understand that decision, besides nvidia have always been king of marketing so i guess this decision have been very well thought out :)

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17:17 Jan-24-2019

I mean they are not confirmed yet, but still.


Nvidia has won the marketing game long ago, about 12-13 years ago.

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17:17 Jan-24-2019

well i thought it was still kinda logical for at least they had been counting upwards and not jumping like some weird handycaped frog ^^. I also agree with what you wrote there, i remember the "r9 280" and the "r9 280x" and there was a "r9 280 X Version"

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17:33 Jan-24-2019

I think they look worse than the 10 Series. 16 Series just screams 'gimped version of our good cards' to me

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15:32 Jan-24-2019

Cool ! Now I know of FotoForensics. Also, even without it, the image looks fake. Looks like a rectangular image super-imposed on top of the background image with the Nvidia logo.

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15:42 Jan-24-2019

Yeah it's kinda fun to mess around with lol, led me down a rabbit hole

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15:15 Jan-24-2019

300$ it is... so that people consider getting rtx 2060.

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17:34 Jan-24-2019

rtx 2060 is 400-450$, I dobut that even at 300$ it would be a consideration.

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14:30 Jan-24-2019

soo, its GTX1070-ish performance for the price of a mid-range GPU (considering that the GTX 1070 3 year old existence makes its performance mid-ranged right now...) - meh, not impressive, but considering its NVIDIA, not that bad as well.
Now, its AMD's turn - if they can really deliver GTX1080 performance for -250$, it will be a show to watch

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14:20 Jan-24-2019

I can see that. Cut down version, something to give to people once AMD releases Navi, if they do so.

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10:43 Jan-19-2019

Nvidia making lot of gpus.

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21:40 Jan-21-2019

Nice choices of gpus!But a bit expensive! :D

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07:14 Jan-19-2019

A small question. Who thinks a 250$ price point for the 1660 is unrealistic?

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08:15 Jan-19-2019

Nvidia

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13:43 Jan-19-2019

Good one.
ROFL XD

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18:23 Jan-24-2019

A related question - who thinks there's room between the 2060 and the '1660 Ti' for a possible Nvidia card in the future ? A 1670 X)

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19:51 Jan-24-2019

well considering that they released a gtx 1070ti which is 10-15% faster than the gtx 1070 and 0-5% slower than the gtx 1080, I wouldn't be surprised.

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21:58 Jan-18-2019

Money!Greed!Money!Greed!Money!Greed!

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18:34 Jan-18-2019

Total exaggeration!!

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11:22 Jan-18-2019

when the rtx3060 launches for 1200$ remember these days ;)

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07:09 Jan-19-2019

There would still be idiots who would buy it.

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18:16 Jan-19-2019

Will there be enough though?

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23:56 Jan-19-2019

At that price, only fanatics.

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07:44 Jan-18-2019

Damn nvidia got confusing me right now, i want to upgrade my GTX 1060 3GB and don't know what plan to do

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08:12 Jan-18-2019

I think you should wait. Prices can't really get higher than this, someone will eventually introduce a more budget friendly solution.

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10:29 Jan-18-2019

I've been saying for years now how I'll buy a new pc...but nothing interesting came out or is coming out to play, aside from tw warhammer 1 and 2 which I play just fine on my old laptop haha.

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05:04 Jan-19-2019

Vega 56 is a big improvement and around £300 depends on your budget an rx 590 is 20% better than the 10603gb if you want nvidia could do worse than a 1070

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05:01 Jan-18-2019

I'd be total nonsense if it's called that. This is becoming beyond confusing for the average consumer. Why not GTX 2060 if it matches the performance of the GTX 1060 but has no RT cores?

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21:13 Jan-17-2019

To confuse everyone even more.


And to promote higher costs with each generation.

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22:06 Jan-17-2019

I wasn't expecting $500 CAD mainstream video cards from Nvidia. I could have bought one but like paying $25 dollars for razors to shave with I can't do it lol! I was at the till with the cash and I was struggling paying that much. So after pacing the store for an hour I finally gave up on the notion and bopught a much cheaper GTX 1060 3GB instead. It literally cost me 50% less...

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09:09 Jan-18-2019

Razors are the highest mark-up product in the world (or at least they were 10 years ago, not 100% sure now)

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20:49 Jan-17-2019

I went today to buy a RTX 2060 and had a heart attack with the price tag of $500 CAD. So I said piss on it and bought a GTX 1060 for half the price!

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22:28 Jan-17-2019

Dude you couldve gone with a 570 8gb for even less money and get two free games to boot. If you didnt want the games you couldve given them to me!


Anyway, at a supposedly US350, I fully expected the CA500 price tag. Its not that eggregious -- lowest 1070Ti I've seen is $500

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22:32 Jan-17-2019

It is pretty damn bad for a supposedly mid range GPU.

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22:34 Jan-17-2019

I was honestly thinking $400 for the 2060's even with our crappy exchange rate! lol I would pay $400 max for a video card for 1080P gaming and that is pushing it for me. I refuse to pay $500 as that is just not ever gonna happen with me...

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13:31 Jan-18-2019

i know right, just for fun i checked store at my place, Lithuania, EU. RTX 2060 starts here from 400 euros, lmfao, like really? really?? And many youtubers sell this card as mainstream, budget, bang for your buck card.. disgusting..

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Youtubers are an informed and ignorant bunch... almost all of them...

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$500CAD that's cheap lol.Here the cheapest RTX 2060(Romania) is 1850RON,-$595CAD.If that's the future midrange,I'm seriously done with gaming.

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