Game reveals at E3 are all well and good, but AMD has got something far juicier on the hardware side. Team Red is using the biggest gaming stage of all, E3 2019, to unveil its brand spanking new Radeon RX 5000 series.
All signs point towards the Radeon RX 5700 XT being the centrepiece of this celebration, with performance thought to be comfortably in excess of the GeForce RTX 2070. Talks cheap though, so we're eager to find out the down and dirty performance as well as pricing of AMD's 7nm Navi hardware.
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When nvidia comes out with 7nm gpus amd will be 2 gens beind again...
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Well if Nvidia doesn't improve their archtiecture again, for the 3rd time, then no... AMD will be a bit behind...
Considering that Maxwell = Pascal = Turing in terms of IPC and power efficiency(consider the process nodes), if their next gen GPUs stick to the same architecture, but renamed due to new features and not more performance, I'd say AMD will be 15-20% slower per mm^2 die size.
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This is really disappointing, but I can't really blame them that much. I guess AMD is changing their selling strategies, instead of well undercutting the market and watching people buy Nvidia GPUs regardless, they'll just price them comparatively and watch people buy Nvidia GPUs while getting more money from their own sales. Win win situation in their book and we the consumers have been royally f*cked by them both upselling us the same tier for much larger prices.
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That's kinda the thing I used to talk about. People expect AMD to drive the prices of Nvidia down so they can still buy Nvidia and it seems like AMD finally caught on to that. F*ck em all. This is not the greatest time to be the consumer in this business.
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I said many times, even here, that Nvidia's outrageous RTX pricing will trickle down and drive all the GPUs up a tier in price. Then I've been told that RTX is priced such because it's a new tech and it's aimed at early adopters and those like me who're complaining about their prices just want "the good stuff" for cheap. I didn't care about RTX but I did about my budget range and GPUs in that budget range are priced one tier higher and offer nothing to justify it.
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Well the gtx 1080 was a mid-range GPU that costed 700$ in 2016... so it's not like we've had good mid-range GPUs in the past 4-5 years...
Also I expect AMD to have normal prices, so that I can insta-buy them as I don't care if my GPU is made by AMD or Nvidia... but I knew that with the RTX cards being out AMD might go greedy as I've said many times and they did...
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In what fantasy world was the GTX 1080 a mid-range GPU? The 1080ti is enthusiast level, 1080 high end, 1070 upper mid range, 1060 low mid range, 1050 (ti) low end.
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In ours. 1080 is overpriced and placed in a market position where it shouldn't ever be in a "perfect" world. It's powered by a mid tier chip designed for a mid tier GPU selling at high tier prices because the people eat up the marketing and think that's right.
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@Virate just like @TheEmperor96 said.
The gtx 1080 has a die size of 314mm^2 and it came out for 699$ MSRP in 2016, where as the gtx 560 had a 332mm^2 die size and came out for 200$ MSRP in 2011(254$ in 2016), considering that fermi was a high R&D priority budget architecture and Pascal was low priority as Pascal is a side-grade to Maxwell and that Fermi had double the failure rates, it's obvious that the gt 560 is a more expensive higher-end GPU.
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Another better example the GTX 1660ti has a 289mm^2 die size and GDDR6 which is 71% more expensive than GDDR5(X) and it costs 279$ MSRP in 2019, or about 250$ MSRP in 2016, it's got 10% smaller die size than the gtx 1080 and it costs more to Nvidia due to GDDR6, but it came out costing 279$ MSRP in 2019, thus the gtx 1080 at launch should have costed 300-330$ MSRP in 2016 MAX... when in 2016 VRAM was at an all time low costs on top of everything...
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any word on APUs i'm interested in a strong 8core processor with a good gpu in it for a secondary portable system for light gaming on the go and lots of onfield video editing data storage sorting 7nm shall be great at keeping heat low pwerf
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performance high and smaller tight packages. dont need a laptop need a custom mini system. got my eyes on the R5 3600 apu version that chip feels like a killer wont be supprised if that ends up being the NEXT GEN CONSOLES SOC hope i get th
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the same Ray Tracing enabled Navi Gpu Sony and Microsoft are going gaga about. i just realised this could very well end up beating my main system and by quite a margin if the benchmarks are to be belived
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the 3200g and the 3400g are slightly better than the previous gen, but they still only have vega 8 and vega 11 clocked a bit higher
https://www.techpowerup.com/256425/amd-ryzen-3-3200g-and-ryzen-5-3400g-detailed-new-slide-leak
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also 4c/8th max.
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Well the 2200g and 2400g are Zen non-plus at 14nm, the 3200g and 3400g will be Zen+ probably at 12nm.
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So like 420 to 450e for a rx 5700 that is supposed to compete with the rtx 2060 which costs 370e in my country also has raytracing and stuff. Or even better a vega 56 for 315e. Don t expect to sell well at that kinda price. Quite a dissapoitment guess the rx 480 which I bought for like 230e 2 and a half year ago will have to stay with me for a while.
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well... not a good future i see here. i was hoping to upgrade to amd cpu and amd gpu in 1-2 years but with that kind of progress i don't think i will...
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Especially the GPU.
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well your gpu should be good for a few more years on that resolution
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oh i don't have 1680x1050 anymore. i upgraded to 2560x1080 :)
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Also not a word on power consumption... 2x 8pin gives a clue tho...
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the 5700xt has a 1x 8 pin and 1x 6 pin and if I'm to guess it's for better overclocking, since 7nm should allow for higher than the 5-10% overclocks of 12/14nm.
the 5700 non-XT has a only 1x 8 pin.
But yes that means that that 50% higher efficiency, is from 7nm alone and their architecture has alegidely 25% higher IPC at the same power consumption...
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So much for the "Navi will save us all" hypetrain
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It kinda seems like AMD has completely lost perspective and doesn't really give a crap about gamers anymore....... Nvidia hasn't given a crap for a good while, so now we have two GPU companies who don't really care about PC gamers and no competitors to fix this mess.
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Why would AMD give a crap about gamers, when gamers don't give a crap about AMD?
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yep. with people being brainwashed into thinking NVidia is always better when AMD does perform better sometimes in same price range. (i'm talking about general public who are not tech savvy like us on GD)
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Yup, I've experienced that first hand with many people who I've built PCs for... :/
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Maybe Intel Graphics in few years but again Intel hasn't given crap about consumers a long time.
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They'll fit right in then.
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1080 ti keeps looking more and more as the pc hardware buy I ever made value wise when I bought it back in mid 2017.
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I mean if you got it for 700$ you overpaid 300$ but even with that it really does seem like a really good investment, chances are you won't need a new GPU until 2021-2022 at the very least...
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I didn't really buy it for $700 exactly. I bought my entire system in my profile second hand from Ebay fo -$1800 back then with a 144Hz monitor. It was practically a steal.
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Bruh that indeed is a steal!
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The pricing all around is just a huge disappointment..... is this where we're at right now? "Mid range" GPUS which before were priced in the $200-$250 range are going for $380? I know Nvidia brought us here.... but AMD didn't have to play "follow the leader"..... this is just completely stupid.
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And these prices are for the hairdryer blower version, the proper dual/triple fan versions that won't thermal throttle will cost an other 100$ more...
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@TClawWolf
Well last gen mid-range GPUs costed 700$ in the face of the gtx 1080 in 2016... so it's an improvement, but compared to current prices of the gtx 1000 and RX 500/Vega 56 GPUs they are worse in terms performance/dollar.
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Those prices are way too high... these unreal prices takes me out from the race on new gfx card (unless something unexpected happens or i find good deal on used cards). See ya in 2020/2021 when not everything revolves around insanity... i hope!
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I have to agree with you, but I kinda need a new GPU, so it's possible that later this year I get one, but the prices are just horrible for both CPUs and GPUs... AMD going for the high profit margins.
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So pathetic, absolute garbage...
Hey friends, I get one frame lower input lag, eat it... -_-
The Ryzen 5 3600 and 3600X for 200$ and 250$ is like IF the Ryzen 3 1200 and 1300x came out for 200$ and 250$ respectively... The Ryzen 7 3700x and Ryzen 7 3800x for 329$ and 399$ is like if the Ryzen 5 1600 and 1600X came out for 329$ and 399$ respectively...
And the RX 5700 for 379$? It's 15% better than the Vega 56 and it costs 20$ less than the Vega 56's launch MSRP and Vega 56 has HBM2, NOT GDDR6... Boooo.... And currently 3rd party Vega 56 is 270-300$... like come on... like screw everything except price and performance, Vega56 is a much better deal than the RX 5700 considering that 3rd party RX 5700 will cost more than 380$...
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AMD went for high profit margins, so good price to performance at this point is thrown out of the window... -_-
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I think people were expecting too much from all the leaks atleast AMD is competing and has good offerings but none of their lineup is worth it unless your GPU/CPU is starting to catch 4-5 years but even then these prices are meh.
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Well we were expecting AMD to be AMD, but AMD went full-on Nvidia with Navi's prices...
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Wow! 5700 and 5700XT looks good
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Yeah that 380$ reference RX 5700 that is 15-20% faster than the Vega 56 which 3rd party cards are currently selling for 270$ is loooking so gooood...
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3rd party RX 5700 will probably start at 400$, when you can get a 270$ Vega 56 3rd party with 2-3x fans and nice big cooler... like that's just sad...
It's like if the RX 480 came out at 399$...
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Honestly looking to upgrade to a Ryzen CPU to replace poor old i5 :)
game run terrible with a quad core now
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Skylake has a lot to offer, I'd honestly just buy a bigger Skylake rather than change my entire platform and all the hassle that comes along with that.