Blizzard bans Hearthstone pro and pulls prize winnings for Hong Kong pro-democracy comments

Written by Stuart Thomas on Sun, Oct 13, 2019 11:52 AM
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UPDATE: Blizzard has finally responded to the intense furore which has surrounded the prominent PC games developer since it opted to ban an eSports player for a year for their on-stream protest against the Hong Kong authorities and China.

Calling it an apology would be far too strong a descriptor. It's merely an empty statement which attempts to broker piece while entirely missing the point. To say it has blown back in Activision-Blizzard's face would be putting it mildly; it's anarchy out there right now with closed subreddits, boycotts, and even Blizzard-related protests on the streets of Hong Kong.

"I want to take a few minutes to talk to all of you about the Hearthstone Grandmasters tournament this past weekend," wrote Blizzard's head honcho, J. Allen Brack. "On Monday, we made the decision to take action against a player named blitzchung and two shoutcasters after the player shared his views on what’s happening in Hong Kong on our official broadcast channel.

"At Blizzard, our vision is “to bring the world together through epic entertainment.” And we have core values that apply here: Think Globally; Lead Responsibly; and importantly, Every Voice Matters, encouraging everybody to share their point of view. The actions that we took over the weekend are causing people to question if we are still committed to these values. We absolutely are and I will explain.

"Our esports programs are an expression of our vision and our values. Esports exist to create opportunities for players from around the world, from different cultures, and from different backgrounds, to come together to compete and share their passion for gaming. It is extremely important to us to protect these channels and the purpose they serve: to bring the world together through epic entertainment, celebrate our players, and build diverse and inclusive communities."

The full statement then devolves into a fairly thorough break-down of the rules, the actions of the player and the shoutcasters, and how Blizzard came to its decision to impose a 12-month ban and rescind all eSports winnings.

Most pertinently, Brack claims "The specific views expressed by blitzchung were NOT a factor in the decision we made. I want to be clear: our relationships in China had no influence on our decision." Ahem. Sure.

"In the tournament itself blitzchung *played* fair. We now believe he should receive his prizing. We understand that for some this is not about the prize, and perhaps for others it is disrespectful to even discuss it. That is not our intention.

"But playing fair also includes appropriate pre-and post-match conduct, especially when a player accepts recognition for winning in a broadcast. When we think about the suspension, six months for blitzchung is more appropriate, after which time he can compete in the Hearthstone pro circuit again if he so chooses. There is a consequence for taking the conversation away from the purpose of the event and disrupting or derailing the broadcast."

As a result, Hearthstone eSports player Blitzchung has had his winnings returned to him and his ban shortened to six months. There's a feeling that Blizzard has spectacularly missed the point here and come out of this in an even worse position than before it issued the statement. 

For his part, Chung 'blitzchung' Ng Wai doesn't sound overly impressed as his time as a Hearthstone pro may be coming to a forced end. 

"First of all," he wrote, "I'm grateful for Blizzard reconsidering their position about my ban. Earlier this week, I told media that I knew I might have penalty or consequence for my act, because I understand that my act could take the conversation away from the purpose of the event. In the future, I will be more careful on that and express my opinions or show my support to Hong Kong on my personal platforms."

But, he says "six months is still quite a lot to me" and he also hopes Blizzard would reconsider the bans imposed on the shoutcasters who had precious little to do with his political statement. Six months is a long time in the competitive scene, however you look at it, and so it's caused Blitzchung to reevaluate whether it's worth staying competitive during the ban period.

This is a PR disaster right now for Blizzard, who surely should have rolled back the ban at the earlier possible opportunity. Meeting in the middle isn't really an option and pleases neither 'side'.

One thing's for sure though - BlizzCon 2019 on November 1st is shaping up to be a spicy affair...

Original Story: 08-Oct-2019 - Blizzard bans Hearthstone pro and pulls prize winnings for Hong Kong pro-democracy comments

Blizzard has found itself in hot water for suspending the winner of a Hearthstone Grandmasters tournament and pulled their prize money after the eSports professional voiced their support for the pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong.

Chung ‘Blitzchung’ Ng Wai is a professional Hearthstone player from Hong Kong who won the Asia-Pacific Grandmasters Hearthstone tournament. During the post-game interview, Blitzchung brandished a mask and said “Liberate Hong Kong. Revolution of our age!” Masks are currently banned by the Hong Kong authorities, who are trying to crack down on the widespread protests.

Blitzchung was suspended (along with the stream’s hosts) and his winnings have been withheld. He’s now banned from competing in Hearthstone tournaments for 12 months.

Blizzard has issued a statement on the situation saying “Upon further review we have found the action has violated the 2019 Hearthstone Grandmasters Official Competition Rules section 6.1.”

Section 6.1 imposes a rule which says, at Blizzard’s sole discretion, it may remove any player and reduce their prize money to $0 USD if they bring themselves into public disrepute, or offend a portion of the public. That’s a far-reaching rule which sounds as if it can be applied in just about any context. Handy.

“Grandmasters is the highest tier of Hearthstone Esports and we take tournament rule violations very seriously,” writes Blizzard in its statement. “After an investigation, we are taking the necessary actions to prevent similar incidents from happening in the future.

“Effective immediately, Blitzchung is removed from Grandmasters and will receive no prizing for Grandmasters Season 2. Additionally, Blitzchung is ineligible to participate in Hearthstone esports for 12 months beginning from Oct. 5th, 2019 and extending to Oct. 5th, 2020. We will also immediately cease working with both casters.”

All comments have been disabled by Blizzard on the news post, drawing a fairly stern line under the whole affair.

If feels as if Blizzard seriously needs some help in the PR department because they’re tripping up at every available opportunity these days. I mean, what is the best they seriously think can happen in this situation? If a short message advocating a pro-democracy movement has the capacity to offend then where is the line to be drawn? What we’re really seeing here is a publisher cowing to the Chinese and Hong Kong authorities for fear of retribution. It looks weak, if we’re being honest, and smacks of an insincerity from Blizzard in its approach to other hot-topic issues, picking and choosing the corporate activism which best suits its bottom line.

But, we'd love to know your thoughts on the issue. Were Blizzard in the right here? Or should such views be kept well away from a Hearthstone tournament? Let us know below!

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22:25 Oct-13-2019

China government bad. Censorship bad. Even though everyone does it. Any form of censorship is bad.

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06:31 Oct-14-2019

Goes right against freedom of expression

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07:32 Oct-14-2019

Agreed, every rule, law and in general limitation(that is not based on the laws of physics) sucks balls, but oh well... selected individuals control the masses and the masses control the individuals.

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10:53 Oct-14-2019

It's funny how you often tend to follow some understanding way and then in a sentence you take it to such ludicrous and extreme view that you absolutely annihilate everything that you've said before that.

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11:22 Oct-14-2019

'selected individuals control the masses and the masses control the individuals' has got my head in a spin

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11:35 Oct-14-2019

That and lowkey abolish all laws is pretty out there for sure.

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11:47 Oct-14-2019

Well the masses follow what the politicians, policemen, law-makers(don't know the term) etc, etc and companies tell them to do, those politicians, policemen, etc, etc and companies are selected individuals that people/masses view as authorities and of course people/the masses believe in authorities more than they beleive in the laws of physics and thus they follow what said authorities as long as they think they are not getting screwed over and since the masses do it, people that don't agree with them have to follow them as well, weather those people like it or not... and they didn't choose to be born(in such place) in the first place... -_-

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11:57 Oct-14-2019

I feel like you're trying to give me an aneurysm. People believe in authority more than the laws of physics? Anyway, I'm out, this is too wild for me

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12:02 Oct-14-2019

I've not heard of a law of physics that supports basic human rights, or punishes violence and murder. Politicians are elected by people who see their values represented by whoever they voted for.

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12:02 Oct-14-2019

Police is there to protect the civilians and uphold the law we all agree to follow. And lawmakers are not creating laws out of nothing, they have to be voted in, often by the public. That's how basic democracy should work.

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12:03 Oct-14-2019

If there were a way to please every individual, there would've been. There isn't. And democracy, love it or hate it, is considered closest to it. So if you have a better proposition that'll satisfy everyone, please do share.

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12:19 Oct-14-2019

Yeah, but that's my point, they are voted in, but do you think 100% voted for the same person/personal? Do you think 100% supported the system in the first place? My point exactly.

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12:28 Oct-14-2019

No, but the majority did. You all get a chance to vote and the side that has the majority of votes takes the cake. I asked you, what other, non fictions and realistic, proposition you have that'll satisfy absolutely everyone?

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12:33 Oct-14-2019

You are calling it fiction, just because people disagree on it. I call fiction everything that is physically impossible... this is just something that people have said it is so and that's it...
People should be making their own satisfaction freely, instead of having other people make it for them... -_-
But in our current system, freedom doesn't exist. Not actual freedom to be exact. And since the majority agree the minority that doesn't is forced to obey...

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12:39 Oct-14-2019

@Psychoman You're peddling a fantasy anarchist dream which can never actually exist for the simple reason that we're all different. The aim is for a solution that pleases as many as possible, you can't please everyone all the time.

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12:45 Oct-14-2019

Well this current system has happened and we are all different... -_-
Not saying this system shouldn't exist, but there should be others, and there aren't... regardless if it's communism, faschism, capitalism, socialism, dictatorship, democracy, it's pretty much overall the same, but some are just better versions(and not in all aspects) of the same thing than others... You know more deep choice than which flavour of ice cream you want, what if I don't want ice cream at all? What if many people, though a small minority don't want ice cream at all?

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12:46 Oct-14-2019

Fiction is something imaginary, something invented and untrue, in this case your perfect utopia. Jon said it much better than I could. We're all different and a solution that pleases absolutely everyone is just impossible.

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12:49 Oct-14-2019

Then don't eat ice cream. That's a stupid metaphor. You're not forced to eat that ice cream, but you're also not forced to follow the law, that's why criminals exist.

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12:52 Oct-14-2019

It is if there was a choice. Have many different types of systems available. People will choose the one they like the best and go in a place where its upheld. But we are stuck with borders and different languages, because logic... -_-


It doesn't matter, I know it will never come to pass, people don't care about almost anything... all people care is for them to eat, sh!t, piss, breathe, have a shelter, have sex and have toys... so be it... It's pointless ot forceably(be it through words or actions) change the way people are... it loses the point of change...

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12:57 Oct-14-2019

What is your point? There is a choice, it's just not the one YOU want it to be. You are now doing exactly the same thing these systems are doing. Thinking your system is better than every other, when in reality perfect system doesn't exist.

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13:01 Oct-14-2019

That's why there should be multiple systems... duh... and no need for a perfect one...


And YES or NO is NOT a meaningful choice, NO is NOT a choice. It's the different types of YES that are actual meaningful choices...
And I can't even say NO. Let's say I break the law and they come for me. I can't just say NO and suddenly they go away... I can't choose NOT to be arrested and the laws NOT to apply to me...

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13:12 Oct-14-2019

Don't give me "duh" like you speak something proper and coherent. Why would the laws not apply to you? Solely because you think you know better? You want to be able to do anything but never hold responsibility? How's that fair?

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12:53 Oct-14-2019

Yeah and if I don't follow the law(and I'm talking murdering or stealing at all) people with guns, tasers, handcuffs and bats come and force me to one way or another.

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12:59 Oct-14-2019

Yes they will. But at least you achieved your dream, didn't you?

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13:02 Oct-14-2019

No, how is that achieving my dream? There are still people enforcing other people...

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13:16 Oct-14-2019

I don't want the laws not to apply to only me, I want there to be no laws... for nobody... rules, laws every possible man made limitation... but as I said won't happen.
And it's not better, it's different... I never said it's better. That's why I said there should be multiple DIFFERENT systems.


Comparing what I want to what is, is comparing oranges to apples... You can have apples that are better than other apples and oranges that are better than other oranges, but you can't say an apple is better than an orange or vice versa, they are different.

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13:20 Oct-14-2019

Of course it won't happen. Because that's fantasy and ludicrously stupid idea. What different systems? You never said which ones. And if there are no laws applied to anyone how do you expect there to be multiple systems at all?

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13:23 Oct-14-2019

Point of laws is to have a more civilized society. If there are no laws than what's stopping me from taking everything you have, and someone else from doing the same to me, and on and on?

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13:28 Oct-14-2019

Keep the current one for people that like it, you know capitalisms, communisms, faschisms, democracies, dictatorships, basically all the variations of the same thing and then give other systems a go.


Well, calling it a "system" is not really accurate... Freedom is what I'd call it.

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13:31 Oct-14-2019

Well why would they do that in the first place? Why would you do that in the first place? And if so, it's called a gun, a knife, a pipe, a stick a rock. It's simple: Do as you will as long as you don't harm others, not a rule, not a law, not enforced, just a mindset, an idea. For our advanced species, that are all so good and holy and so smart and amazing, and the best thing there is, we should be able to do it. No? Or are we worse than animals? :P

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13:33 Oct-14-2019

WHICH SYSTEMS? Give what a go? Give anarchy a go? Plenty have, and it didn't work out.
I'd not call it freedom. Because as soon as someone decided that my freedom is lesser than his freedom, than I'm not free anymore.

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13:36 Oct-14-2019

Why would I not do it? I want to, that's more than enough in that freedom of yours, and as soon as I want to, you've lost your choice and your freedom. Because you can't say no. So where and how far did that "freedom" take you?

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13:37 Oct-14-2019

How can one decide that ones freedom is lesser than anothers? It's freedom. And again what? We build rockets to go to the moon, but we can't just co-operate without a gun to our head and a lynching mob behind our backs?

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13:37 Oct-14-2019

Even animals have rules they follow, and we are still animals.

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13:38 Oct-14-2019

Yeah, rules that are not enforced, very few species enforce any sort of rules or have any to begin with. And yes we are animals no doubt, but people like to think we are above them.

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13:39 Oct-14-2019

You already have the ability to do as you will, as long as you don't step onto someone ability to do as they will. We just enforce that. So all your freedom is to simply have what we already have, just under a different name.

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13:44 Oct-14-2019

"How can one decide that ones freedom is lesser than anothers?"
Because you've given everyone the freedom to make that choice. It's that simple.

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13:45 Oct-14-2019

Egh no... patents and licenses exist for example. 0 sense, restrictive, screwing everybody's freedom... Like literally most laws and rules are there to take away freedom... Don't kill and steal are the only logical ones... but again why do we need them to be enforced? They should be automatic, no?


Traffic laws? Who says I can't go 300Km/h? You can blame me after I've hurt someone and sensible people wouldn't go 300Km/h unless they knew nothing wrong would happen...


Drug laws? Make 0 sense... Why should we be restricted to consume anything? Utter BS...


Land laws? Egh, kek...


Borders? Again... just meh... 0 logic, 0 sense... screw them... and when I say 0 logic, I mean that they are an enforced abstraction...


LIke I can keep going... -_-

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13:47 Oct-14-2019

You can keep going but you'll make a bigger fool of yourself. We need them to be enforced because if they're not, there's no repercussion. We're enforcing them for the safety of everyone.

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13:50 Oct-14-2019

Traffic laws exist so you don't hurt everyone, and so if you do, we know who's fault it is. Drug laws again exist for your safety and safety of others. They can change state of a person which can cause them to hurt others, or themselves.

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13:54 Oct-14-2019

I'd go on but I'm tired and busy arguing a pointless debate. You can't explain something to someone who thinks he knows better.

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13:57 Oct-14-2019

I don't know better, I know different...
There is no better... just different... truly different, instead of different kinds of the same thing...

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13:52 Oct-14-2019

Yeah dude, border laws... for the safty of who exactly? Borders just determine who collects the taxes... -_-
Consumption laws? People should be free to consume whatever they want...


You call me a fool, because to you the way things are is the only way and the ultimate way, sure... because your choices and desires are met... Yeah, but many people don't agree with that, still a small minority, but what about them?


All the planet is taken... nobody asked to be born... what to do? Huh?

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13:56 Oct-14-2019

My choices and desires are definitely not met. But I'm capable enough to understand that perfection doesn't exist, and that like the others, we're all in the same boat.
No one asks to be born, I don't get what's your point there?

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13:59 Oct-14-2019

I definitely don't think the way things are is the only way, but I know that I can't propose a better one that'll satisfy the people more than the current systems we already have in place. I don't think I speak for everyone.

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13:59 Oct-14-2019

Well if I had a choice to be born into this world at this time with the way things are, then I wouldn't have wanted to be born, but we are not given that choice...
Currently the best possible life that there can be the way things currently are is horrible to me... simple as that... give me all the money, all the women, all the toys, whatever else is highly valued, to me it sucks balls... why? Rules, laws, restrictions... culture... simple as that...

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14:01 Oct-14-2019

See you are still seeking BETTER, I'm seeking DIFFERENT...

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14:07 Oct-14-2019

You do what you can with what you have. No one asks where or when to be born, so being mad at that is a genuine waste of time. That's something everyone who lives and lived has in common. I'm certainly glad I've been born today than ...

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14:07 Oct-14-2019

...than during the black plague though. I personally feel even though the world we live in now is f*cked up in many ways, it's probably the best one so far.

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14:07 Oct-14-2019

Different for the sake of different is stupid and a waste of time. If you can't make a case for why it would be better, then it's just a valueless detraction from where we have to go.

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14:09 Oct-14-2019

I'd say that in most ways it's the worst, while in others it's the best. Medically and technologically it's the best, the rest is worse and is getting worse.

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18:03 Oct-13-2019

Blizzard has done fu#%ed up.

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14:56 Oct-13-2019

This was just pad PR all around. If you play politics you'll get burned no matter what side your on.

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16:29 Oct-13-2019

Pretty much.

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13:02 Oct-13-2019

Eh... I think the ban was reasonable. Why do you sign up for something if you don't like the rules?

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14:05 Oct-13-2019

I mean, true. Whether we like it or not, Blizzard has every right to do this. They provide the platform, they set the rules.

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18:19 Oct-13-2019

that still doesn't mean it's right... lets say we had the technology during ww2... would you ban and silence someone who spoke out about the killing of jews in concentration camps on a stream where it can bring awareness to the problem?

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19:27 Oct-13-2019

They were. Plenty of people were silenced for bringing awareness of the concentration camps. And they have gotten their message across and brought some awareness to the situation.

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19:27 Oct-13-2019

They were banned though because they were using a platform against rules, which Blizzard has every right to enforce as they provide the platform. Could have they handled the situation better? Yes. Is Blizzard in the wrong, legally no.

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19:27 Oct-13-2019

Political messages don't ever do good for the holder of the platform, to them it's a lose-lose situation. That's why they're against such things in the first place.

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11:37 Oct-14-2019

F what's legally right, this is peoples freedom and lives we are talking about

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11:48 Oct-14-2019

Yes. But companies are not moral or ethical entities. They govern themselves by laws and nothing else.

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20:10 Oct-13-2019

Someone on Reddit rightfully pointed out that while Blizz allegedly wants to keep the streams about games and nothing more in terms of "polarising views" - they have numerous times had all sorts of LGBT/Pride/etc segments, posts, etc. Blizz touts that they have a world-wide audience and, as such, wish to avoid controversial/divisive topics and keep it "about the game", yet they have no problem pushing something that, say, the middle east (or even China, for that matter) are not ok with.
The move to ban Blitzchung was, therefore, suspicious.

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20:38 Oct-13-2019

LGBT rights etc are common decency. It's about human rights. Even if other countries disagree, they can't hold that against them. However, siding with or against the government of one of the most populated countries on Earth, is just daft. They 100% did the right thing. They had the rules, and this guy knew them. His ban is literally his own fault.

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20:53 Oct-08-2019

Blizzard is already f*cked. This is really bad, especially since they're all about 'diversity' and 'inclusion.' smh

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21:06 Oct-08-2019

Blizzard doesn't exist anymore, all executive positions are filled by Activision at this point.

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00:15 Oct-09-2019

That's true.

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09:55 Oct-10-2019

Time to dump Blizzard like the turd that it is.

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20:47 Oct-10-2019

China pretty much invaded every company sadly.

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21:36 Oct-10-2019

Hope the link works.

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15:39 Oct-13-2019

Yeap.Did that after the immortal fiasco.Deleted my account,too!And i've already got Diablo and LoD from back in the days,so - i'll just install and play them,whenever i want.No login,no registration,no nothing.

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19:19 Oct-13-2019

I don't get the point of deleting your account. You already gave them the money and now you've lightened their servers too. Keep the account but don't use it. That hurts them way more than deleting it.

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17:18 Oct-08-2019

#BLIZZARDYOUPUSSY
#BLIZZARDYOU****


You give hoo's a bad name.

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17:19 Oct-08-2019

The 2nd # ended with c...u...n.........t.....
Sorry but this is one instance where I don't care about being proper.

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18:29 Oct-08-2019

What is a "Blizzard"? All I know is Activision.

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09:56 Oct-10-2019

Sadly true.

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17:14 Oct-08-2019

THE ACTUAL ****!!!

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16:30 Oct-08-2019

Nonsense! Communism is awesome and it needs another chance!
How dare this young radical speak in favor of democracy?!

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18:28 Oct-08-2019

Nah bro, faschism and nazism is where it's at

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14:08 Oct-13-2019

That is why we live in our glorious Capitalist wonderland where being sick and seeking treatment is set to ruin your life unless you die before that happens.

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16:36 Oct-13-2019

Yeah, because Capitalism! Everything about capitalism and consumarism is perfect, nothing can possibly be bad, it's "holier than god", nothing can beat it, best thing since sliced bread... And it should crash and burn.

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18:22 Oct-13-2019

human idea are only flawed if we let them be flawed :shrug: look at denmark, they have the entire capitalism thing done right where being sick and seeking treatment does not ruin your life

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18:25 Oct-13-2019

Oh that's only one of the many problems. The culture capitalism spawns over time is the worst part of it.

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20:14 Oct-13-2019

I feel the need to explain the differences between the free market capitalism vs corporate capitalism vs the unholy mix of socialism AND corporate capitalism that we actually live in (hint: high taxes is what keeps people poor while corporate capitalism cronies keep the healthcare prices up). The amount of money I pay for tax every month and never claim back in social services is staggering... I'd rather put that into a fund and use it when I need it. Big socialist government can go suck a fat one.

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07:36 Oct-14-2019

TBH, if taxes are handled properly, paying high taxes could be the best, but it's human beings we are talking about after all... But then again Scandinavian countries are known for their good life styles and such and they have very high taxes. I have a friend from Denmark and his dad is a driver and his mom doesn't work and yet they are doing more than fine.

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09:11 Oct-14-2019

Kinda missed the point there. You pay in when you don't need it for the time when you eventually do need it. Saving for a rainy day and all that. Needless to say it's not all me, me, me either; a rising a tide lifts all boats.


And high taxes don't need to keep poor people poor provided they're progressive enough, which I don't think they are right now in the UK. If you're paying a 'staggering' amount in tax though then that's good by me

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09:47 Oct-14-2019

well progressive taxes are good(better), whereas static dynamic taxes are bad.


And considering how often in history inflation or even hyper-inflation can occur, savings can easily become worthless.

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20:39 Oct-13-2019

I live in a capitalist country, and if I get sick, I don't pay a penny. ????

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20:50 Oct-13-2019

Come here into the bastion of Capitalism, the glorious US of A, and try not to get sick on the way. Also, the last time I checked, UK is really doing their best to starve out and collapse the NHS, and they're doing well with that.

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08:37 Oct-18-2019

The NHS is even close to collapse. In fact, I recently had to go in because I had a viral infection in my heart. Had loads of meds, precedures, several days stay, food, different scans, and a follow up MRI.
I paid exactly £0. Not a penny.

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15:30 Oct-08-2019

When I heard news long ago about "Video games has become the most profitable media existed" I kinda scared that this day would happen. The day that AAA+ devs are flooded with investors and structure that answer to nothing else but money.

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12:23 Oct-08-2019

First South Park's episode 'Band in China' and now this, the timing is just right. :D

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12:30 Oct-08-2019

Xi doesn't look like Winnie the Pooh at all and nothing noteworthy ever happened at Tiananmen Square in 1989!


*ding* +20 social score

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19:32 Oct-13-2019

China is definitely the big bad of todays world.

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13:04 Oct-08-2019

They're on fire with this new season so far lol

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13:58 Oct-13-2019

****k the Chinese government

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20:15 Oct-13-2019

Yeah, don't be a towel! :D

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12:05 Oct-08-2019

It's shameful, especially since he was not even violent or vulgar in his remarks. Blizzard is hiding behind competition rules but everyone knows they are doing this just to not offend the Chinese authorities and keep selling their games.

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11:51 Oct-08-2019

Wow, that's a very controversial move from Blizzard.. Making it clear where they stand on the matter. But even with politics aside, it's hard to believe they can pull off such a move.


They've lost my support at least

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11:29 Oct-08-2019

I'm always amazed it needs to be said but please don't be racist in the comments in this article. You can criticise China without being racist/xenophobic, it's perfectly possible :)

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11:44 Oct-08-2019

What is there to be racist or xenophobic about? They have a strict dictatorship, not sure if it was absolute or not. It's not good for people's rights for sure, nor is it good for their living conditions(compared to "first world" western countries at least), but it sure is damn effective when it comes to economy and development and technology and overall improvement of the country as a single entity.


I personally wouldn't like to live in China, I prefer freedom and being less advanced with worse economy to very little freedom with the best economy and technological advancements. Well as free as we can be anyway...

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11:45 Oct-08-2019

That's also why I don't like many of the western countries as a whole. Compared to all the crap you can do here, all the rules and laws there make me feel like I'd be a prisoner(in a metaphoric sense) there.

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11:51 Oct-08-2019

It is just as a response to the first comment!

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12:05 Oct-08-2019

The way you moderated my comment makes it look like I said something far worse than I actually did. I suggest moderating without the comment or removing my comment as a whole.

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12:09 Oct-08-2019

I'll remove the entire comment if you want? If you're ashamed of looking or appearing racist then it's probably best not to say 'ching chong' due it to being used to mock how Asians speak. It's difficult for readers of the comment to interpret it as anything other than racism.

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Nope just a friendly suggestion for future moderation.
Right now you left it open to interpretation how close I was to calling for the extermination of all Chinese.

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12:35 Oct-08-2019

Yep, I'm the one who needs to take on board suggestions in this situation. I didn't realise there were defined limits on how racist someone felt comfortable being. I shall improve future moderation as we don't want to get people accidentally thinking casual racists are actual racists.


In that instance I'd moderate as follows: (Comment moderated, please don't advocate genocide - Jon)

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If you don't want to appear professional that's fine I guess.

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Gotta appease our Chinese Übercensors to keep access to that precious market.


(Comment moderated, no racism please - Jon)

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