AMD Ryzen to the top - European PC gamers now prefer AMD CPUs to Intel

Written by Jon Sutton on Mon, Dec 2, 2019 3:40 PM

Research conducted through an independent survey has demonstrated a surge in popularity for AMD processors over the past two years. While Intel has long been the dominant force in the CPU market, Europe, at least, is being pulled in by the allure of AMD Ryzen.

The survey was conducted by the European Hardware Association (EHA) and polled over 10,000 European residents. Of those asked, more than 60% said they’d choose an AMD CPU over an Intel CPU. By contrast, just 40% showed a preference for AMD when another survey was run in 2018, showcasing a 50% rise in consumer preference for AMD processors.

“The surge in preference from 50% to 60% over recent months, can be explained by the launch of AMD’s latest 3rd generation Ryzen desktop CPU,” said EHA chairman Koen Crijns. “Ryzen 3000 not only offers better performance under multi-threaded workloads, but also under lightly-threaded applications like PC games.

“The last three years has seen AMD gain a lot of momentum in the enthusiast segment. With the Ryzen series of CPUs, AMD has eliminated any lingering performance gaps, while offering a great price/performance ratio.”

Naturally, a few alarm bells may be ringing in regards to the source of these numbers. Digging around, the EHA is a collection of member sites such as Kituru, Hardware.info, SweClockers and Cowcotland, all pooling together their consumer research to help better understand market patterns. On this front, the EHA would appear to be wholly independent from the hardware manufacturers themselves.

With that out of the way, the figures themselves are certainly interesting and speak to a wider truth among PC gamers. Even some casual reading of the tea leaves would tell you that AMD is undoubtedly favoured right now. AMD has brought prices down while dramatically improving the performance efficiency of its own CPUs, causing a knock-on effect to Intel’s inflated pricing. 

Once we get into graphics cards though, things get a little murkier. Despite AMD’s progress with 7nm fabrication and the launch of the Radeon RX 5700 series, Nvidia still has greater breadth and depth to its graphics card line-up. It’s far easier to point out a reason for picking up a GeForce video card than it is an AMD Radeon, and you’d think that would be hurting AMD. Not so says the data though, with the survey of 10,000 consumers finding that AMD is currently closing the gap. It’s still not anywhere close, mind, with Nvidia the preferred choice for 72.8% of those surveyed.

“While Nvidia is still the dominant force in this segment and 72.8% of the technology enthusiasts, early adopters and influencers who read EHA publications would choose GeForce, the launch of AMD’s aggressively priced Radeon RX 5700 and 5700 XT products has made an impact,” Crijns goes on to say. “Back in May, less than 19% of our readers were choosing AMD graphics. Today that number is closer to 23%.

“Our most recent survey shows that people who prefer AMD GPUs almost exclusively combine them with AMD CPUs. The combination of Intel CPU with AMD GPU only accounts for 2.9% of the results”.

AMD is winning over the hearts and minds of PC gamers then, but is working for you? Should Intel and Nvidia we seriously worried about AMD’s recent fight back? Let us know!

If you bought a new CPU right now would it be AMD or Intel?

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02:29 Dec-04-2019

I dig my new set up. Upgraded from a 4770k clocked at 4.4Ghz. While my single threaded performance hasn't gone up much, the extra cores and threads make it so my system doesn't get bogged down when I open one too many applications. And I love freesync. Got a 32 inch AOC monitor and Witcher 3 is beautiful and smooth af.

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08:51 Dec-05-2019

Glad your new build is rocking.

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20:04 Dec-03-2019

Well whenever I decide to replace my 5 year old CPU I think I know which side I'll choose. AMD of course.

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19:03 Dec-03-2019

happy 3700x user, cant wait for 4000 series!

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08:54 Dec-05-2019

That's one hell of a CPU.
What MOBO did you go with?

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06:16 Dec-06-2019

I went for MSI X570 gaming edge wifi, pretty good

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08:49 Dec-06-2019

Nice


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22:21 Dec-09-2019

It is paired with x570 crosshair hero 8 wifi, great motherboard!

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01:06 Dec-10-2019

i have that same one. great mb.

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16:54 Dec-10-2019

May it serve as a platform for killing monster and having fun.

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17:19 Dec-10-2019

thanks! Last time i skimped on motherboard causing to to malfunction (z97p-d3 with oced 4790k), i had to live with it for one year (caused random shutdowns) so i wanted to be sure that next motherboard will not fail throughout its whole life cycle, im planning to hold to am4 platform as long as possible, going for future high end 4000 series cpu and leave it until it wont be able to run games at around 60-30fps mark.

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00:31 Dec-11-2019

dont forget to use the ryzen ram calculator to tighten everything up and increase your performance. might not be a lot in some games but it will bring up your minimum to help smooth things out.

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20:15 Dec-11-2019

@Gerulis20 I think the mobo you picked this time will hold up for a very long time.


But still, make sure you have all the receipts and all the warranty papers.

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22:09 Dec-11-2019

yeah i will for sure, i upped my ram from 3200 cl14 to 3600mhz and cl16, its samsung memory i tried for fast preset(from program made by usmus) at default 3200mhz but got blue screens so i dialed them back and just raised clockspeed with a little bit worse timings. Runs rock solid now and very happy with the performance.

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14:30 Dec-03-2019

When i bought a new pc 2-3 years ago i went with i5-6600K and so far its good as i build the pc for gaming mostly. But when the time comes for upgrade idk if i'll continue with Intel seeing they are overpriced af

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08:56 Dec-05-2019

Currently AMD kicks Intel in the behind when it comes to price/performance.


I doubt Intel will often anything meaningful in the coming years.

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05:07 Dec-03-2019

Next CPU will be either ryzen 3600 or 2700x

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02:46 Dec-03-2019

Intel is preferred personally due to better support for the hardware in most software.


But AMD is more practical due to pricing.


In short,


Intel = Ideal.


AMD = Practical.


My vote has to go to AMD.

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02:51 Dec-03-2019

Considering almost everything (never had a problem myself) works just fine with AMD CPU's, I'd say they blow Intel out of the park.

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03:51 Dec-03-2019

If it wasn't for the pricing I would disagree with you.


I stand by my "intel = ideal" statement.


The only reason I am siding with AMD is the better price to performance ratio.


Otherwise I would stand with intel.

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04:46 Dec-03-2019

What's ideal about Intel? Yeah, they would have the best gaming performance. But that's not so much the case anymore. Software support doesn't matter.


AMD by far has caught up in single-threaded. They dominate with multi-threaded. They have far less security vulnerabilities. Yeah, they only matter to data centers and workstations, but they are all still applied on every user. Through software, firmware and hardware mitigations.

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04:59 Dec-03-2019

"What's ideal about Intel?"


Because of better software support. You say it doesn't matter which is true if all you do is play games.


But I do much more than that, so it matters to me. :P

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10:16 Dec-03-2019

Which software support when AMD blows Intel away in the majority of professional applications? I've never come across a program that doesn't work as good on my machine as it does on Intel. Give me some examples, I want to check.

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11:23 Dec-03-2019

This isn't about how well the program works with the specific hardware.


This is about hardware acceleration features in said applications.

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11:52 Dec-03-2019

I feel like you've no clue what you're talking about. It's not about how program works with specific hardware but about how specific hardware works with the program??? That's the same thing.

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12:17 Dec-03-2019

I said no such thing, this is about hardware features that the programs in question supports.


Not how well it runs on the program itself.


If you still don't get it let me put it more into layman's terms.


It's about features not compatibility. The latter of which is not an issue in the slightest.

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13:07 Dec-03-2019

I don't care what CPU you're going to buy, I just want to know which features you're talking about. You say they're very beneficial to the work you're doing, I just want to know which features those are. You've yet to name a single one.

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13:09 Dec-03-2019

If they provide active and definitive benefit as you say, maybe they could suit me too. I'm not aware of any such features though, that's why I'm asking.

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13:58 Dec-03-2019

It's mainly just hardware-based acceleration.


I stated this before.

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14:32 Dec-03-2019

The only different feature that provides that in certain situations is Intel Quick Sink. But even then, considering AMD offers more cores at the same price, and encoding really loves cores, makes it a lot less life changing feature than you make it out to be.

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16:44 Dec-03-2019

Not sure what programs don't support hardware-based acceleration for AMD, but all the programs I use support it for AMD and I do almost everything with my computer. Even all the virtual machine software I have tested support hardware acceleration by AMD. VirtualBox even allows nested pages for AMD, while not having it implemented for Intel yet. There aren't a lot of programs that doesn't support hardware-based acceleration for AMD and if you use any then it's probably time to switch to something that's actually getting updated. The only situation I can personally think of where Intel would be better (excluding gaming) is if you were planning to create a Hackintosh machine, because they are just easier to do for Intel.

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12:20 Dec-03-2019

As stated before I will most likely get a Ryzen anyway.

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09:02 Dec-05-2019

From what I've heard (US info), a lot of businesses also prefer Intel because it has a long history of use within a company and they aren't willing to switch to AMD for the lower price.


For a company up time is more important than price in the long run.


Can you tell me which program you use that works better on Intel.

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09:23 Dec-05-2019

If uptime is more important then they'll probably switch to AMD. AMD has had the least amount of vulnerabilities compared to Intel and Nvidia. A few companies had to take their servers offline while all the Intel bugs were getting fixed earlier this year. I do understand that they have brand loyalty though, but AMD would just make a lot more sense for them in the long run at the moment.

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10:07 Dec-05-2019

They have supply contracts and other partnership programs with Intel, that's the biggest reason the as it's a legal reason

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10:19 Dec-05-2019

Yeah, that too. Makes intel a lot of money and saves the companies a lot of money by getting into those contracts. Well, I guess we'll see what will happen in the server space in a few years when those contracts / agreements are over. Intel might even be better with server stuff by that time. I'm still interested to see what will happen though.

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03:29 Dec-06-2019

a lot of it comes down to intel sabotaging amd in the prebuilt market. intel had to go to court about it. when it comes to cost, its not about the business choosing intel, its what there was to offer. that is why they ended up with intel.

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@NeoGPX
Both AMD and Intel have the same instructions and are based on the same instruction set architecture(ISA) => x86-64, and thus the same software support. Their pipelines are different so the optimization for their respective designs is different, but still your statment makes 0 sense.


Intel being ideal by default is just plain wrong.

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04:28 Dec-04-2019

except for Topaz Labs using Intel OpenVINO (which I'm gonna say he had no idea about until just now) i havent found anything that Intel has specifically over AMD that he is talking about.

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04:32 Dec-04-2019

I haven't found one piece of software that won't run on AMD at all. This makes no sense at all.

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23:10 Dec-02-2019

I'm shocked at how great AMD CPU's are nowadays. As soon as they come out with their next decent GPU I'm doing a full AMD build.

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22:49 Dec-02-2019

love it how amd is blue and intel is a red line....

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21:50 Dec-02-2019

Zen3 is going to destroy Intel's current and next line up of CPUs. 10th Gen CPUs are still using the Skylake architecture but with slower IPC because of all the security vulnerabilities. They have to patch them up at the hardware level.

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10:17 Dec-03-2019

Zen2 already destroys Intel. Zen3, if Intel doesn't still do anything, will make them obsolete for until they're capable of competing again.

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22:52 Dec-03-2019

That's true.

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21:45 Dec-02-2019

huh, well, I do not plan on buying a new CPU anytime soon...
...mostly because I just recently did... and, uhm, well, yeah.

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17:12 Dec-03-2019

Me neither

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20:10 Dec-02-2019

Dont know how good/silent is the cooler of 3600, but ill choose again intel K+ aftermarket cooler anytime for the same price

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20:28 Dec-02-2019

Coolers that come with Ryzen are generally really good compared to what Intel offers for their CPUs. AMD's coolers actually do their supposed jobs pretty well. Now if you want to overclock than you should probably look for a separate cooler, but running the thing stock you'll not have problems.

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21:12 Dec-02-2019

wait since when intels cpus come with a cooler?

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21:16 Dec-02-2019

They did send coolers with i5 6500 CPU's.

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21:27 Dec-02-2019

They used to. Whether they still do I don't know.

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00:43 Dec-04-2019

can confirm that stock coolers are really good, more than twice the size of an intel one and with thick copper heatpipes all over them. i got a really beefy one here, but i used my AIO 240mm liquid cooler.

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19:56 Dec-02-2019

lets hope next thing is gpu's

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18:46 Dec-02-2019

well im thinking of an of getting a i9-9900k since my laptop mobo supports it.

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19:04 Dec-02-2019

you sure? very few laptops support desktop cpus, and even fewer are able to cool them down :D

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Indeed, thats going to be a tough one to cool if the motherboard indeed supports it.

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19:35 Dec-02-2019

Even if mobo supports it, cooling that thing would be a nightmare. You should probably check online if you can cool that thing before you commit to a purchase.

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19:58 Dec-02-2019

Maybe look out for a T suffix intel cpu they are 35W desktop parts.

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Do they even make T suffix CPUs anymore?

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20:01 Dec-03-2019

Yes they do, they're sometimes just hard to come by because not many retailers offer them.

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20:33 Dec-03-2019

Ah. Well that has always been the case. Good to know.

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18:23 Dec-02-2019

I tend to go for whatever is great at the time of upgrading, last amd cpu i had was the fx8350 but then amd had nothing for a long time so i jumped to intel, my cpu is still great so wont be needing upgrade for a few years yet but who knows, might be an amd build if intel dont get there sh*t together

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18:16 Dec-02-2019

AMD is absolutely killing it! My next upgrade will be the new 39xxX Threadripper :)

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19:36 Dec-02-2019

Oooohh, it's a surprise then ? Keeping us in suspense?

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22:00 Dec-02-2019

Oh, I'm not upgrading just yet, but it's in order, seeing that you don't only get a crapload of cores - but top-end gaming performance too! :)

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22:37 Dec-02-2019

It is a beast indeed.

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20:02 Dec-02-2019

Hail to the king baby.

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17:53 Dec-02-2019

I'd love to hear the reason for going Intel from those that voted for em in the poll.

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18:31 Dec-02-2019

i sayed s little lower in the comments, similar price and still better gaming peformance

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19:22 Dec-02-2019

Not really the case, the new ryzen lineup will almost always beat intel competitors in price and often in performance.

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19:30 Dec-02-2019

It does squeeze a few more FPS compared to similarly priced Ryzen processors, but that's few more in up to 5% range at most. Outside of gaming though Ryzen just wipes them right now.
If you do just game and nothing else, then yes, Intel gives you a better experience, but if you plan to do absolutely anything else, go Ryzen.
That said, Ryzen seems to offer smoother gaming performance across the board with much more stabler and higher frametimes against Intels current lineup.

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19:32 Dec-02-2019

So you might get a few more FPS but not as smooth, sometimes even twitchy, performance compared to what Ryzen offers.

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20:00 Dec-02-2019

Thank you for the feedback.

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17:34 Dec-02-2019

I never had intel lol
Go team red

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16:20 Dec-02-2019

I find it's kinda interesting how majority of Intel systems are blue/green. A lot more Intel owners opt for Nvidia. Why is that I wonder?

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16:29 Dec-02-2019

Apart from the fact that Nvidia is just more popular for graphics, I think there's an impression that Intel and Nvidia go together, just as if I were to go AMD for the cpu, I'd be tempted, at least on a aesthetic level, to go all AMD for a "matching" system. Having said that, my next cpu (not for a while) is likely to be AMD, while next logical GPU for me is 1080ti.

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16:51 Dec-02-2019

Why a 1080Ti? That's not a big step up from what you have now.

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17:35 Dec-02-2019

Yeah he should go for at least 2070 super

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Well, if we talk about raw performance and value, used GTX 1080 Ti is better, that's if he doesn't want RTX. Besides getting GTX 1080 Ti offers 50% more performance than GTX 1070. In same condition (GTX 1070 owner here) I will go for GTX 1080 Ti, too.

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17:00 Dec-02-2019

I had all sort of combinations, i usually go for the best price/performance. I had i5-3570k with grx 960, which then became an rx 580, then i changed for r5 1600X with gtx 1070 and now full amd, because ryzen 3rd gen was an obvious choice and rx 5700xt gives you a 2070 costing 100€ less (in italy)

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16:20 Dec-02-2019

i kind of did buy it now, few some month ago that is and i went for intel as all i do is gaming and prices were same

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16:02 Dec-02-2019

hmm if I'm seeing it correct, nVidia shrinking too a bit

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16:17 Dec-02-2019

Are they? Latest article I read about it, which came out sometime this November, said that Nvidia took back a decent chunk of the market with RTX series.

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16:33 Dec-02-2019

That'll be because of the difference in how the data is collected. As far as I remember from the November article, that was based on revenue. A lot of Nvidia cards are more expensive and AMD doesn't have much at the top-end so Nvidia is pulling in the cash with RTX.


So AMD is pulling in a greater proportion of customers than before while Nvidia is pulling in a greater proportion of cash.

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16:54 Dec-02-2019

Yeah makes sense.

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16:17 Dec-02-2019

Well, AMD will probably get even bigger with Linux and MacOS. Nvidia announced a few days ago that they'll not add CUDA support on MacOS for the future releases and Nvidia doesn't have open sourced drivers for Linux either.

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16:22 Dec-02-2019

Nvidia and Apple really don't like each other, and graphics wise, Apple has pretty much been AMD exclusive for a while now. So I don't think the lack of CUDA support is going to change things that much.

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16:32 Dec-02-2019

we'll see,
new Mac Pro (IF they actually release it lol) will probably make final decisive hit I believe

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16:46 Dec-02-2019

Well, there are a few people with hackintosh computers, like @Tzzsmk, and some of them do use CUDA cores for editing and other tasks. So it'll be interesting to see what will happen in the future with that community.

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