Watch Dogs Legion won't be able to run 60fps at Ultra settings 1080p with RTX 2080 Ti

Written by Neil Soutter on Mon, Jul 13, 2020 5:30 PM
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Ubisoft recently revealed a bunch of new content at their E3-style Ubisoft Forward event livestream, including a new trailer and some fresh new gameplay for Watch Dogs Legion. However, according to some recent reports on the game’s latest preview build demo, Watch Dogs Legion was unable to run at 60fps with Ultra settings on an RTX 2080 Ti graphics card when ray tracing was enabled. Talk about demanding games, sheesh.

Watch Dogs: Legion will be one of the first games from Ubisoft utilizing the latest ray tracing technology, but the preview demo was only able to run at 30fps when this setting was turned on and the graphics turned to the maximum settings, even when running at 1080p. You can take a look at some of the ray tracking in action for Watch Dogs Legion in the video below:

There is a saving grace here though, and that is Watch Dogs Legion will support Nvidia’s other standout technology DLSS 2.0, which should boost up the frame rate to 60fps with maximum settings and ray training enabled. As far as we know the DLSS technology was not available during this demo build. Though that does beg the question as to what will be able to run Watch Dogs Legion at the same settings in 4K. 

Though it’s not very surprising considering how demanding Ghost Recon Breakpoint and Assassins Creed: Odyssey are, mostly only able to reach 60fps at Ultra settings when set to 1440p resolution or lower.

Watch Dogs Legion is due out on October 29th, which doesn’t leave a whole lot of time to improve performance, so I imagine we won’t be seeing any significant improvements for performance when the game eventually does release, but we can still hope.

What do you think? Will this be the norm for next-gen games? What graphics card do you think will be able to run Watch Dogs Legion at maximum graphics settings and ray tracing enabled? Could this be the most demanding game of 2020? Let us know your thoughts!

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typical watch dogs. Optimization? what's this?

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Just because it requires high-end components, doesn't mean it's going to be jaw-dropping. It could be due to horrible optimization and terrible port.

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12:57 Jul-14-2020

I'm just hoping it doesn't get downgraded. That's what i'm hoping the most, everything else is a lie :D. That being said, i can't wait to see some benchmarks on this game when it's released.

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10:20 Jul-14-2020

The last two also had sheet optimization so there's that...

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07:05 Jul-14-2020

i mean my GTX 1080 couldnt run Watch dogs 2 on ultra at 1080p 60fps
so......just watch dogs optimization i guess

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09:27 Jul-14-2020

wait what seriously?

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10:20 Jul-14-2020

Yes.

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10:40 Jul-14-2020

yea same here it drops to 30-40 like crazy

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12:32 Jul-14-2020

man that sucks I thought just Ghost Recon Wildlands is that bad. that being said Division runs pretty well Heck even Watch dogs 1 runs pretty smoothly

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12:42 Jul-14-2020

I get 60+ fps in wd2 with my setup, try putting it on an SSD, game that has a lot to render needs lots of speed and very low response time, HDDs dont have that. When i went from my r9 390 to v64 WD1 went from running great to running like poop, but it was on a HDD, switched to SSD and WD2 is smooth as butter.

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09:33 Jul-15-2020

i shall try this

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14:48 Jul-15-2020

HDD gaming doesn't make sense anymore and I'm glad HDDs are on their way out for that particular use. I too had stuttering in games. WD1 and Witcher3 were games I directly compared on HDD and SSD and this was what prompted me to invest in a large SSD for games, back in the day.

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17:02 Jul-15-2020

Yup, for me i put games that are slow to update on an SSD and games that need to be, ie siege, world of warships and rust. Everything else that isn't slow loading i don't mind putting on an HDD, i have uplay, epic, steam, wargaming and rockstar and have over 300 games. An ssd wouldnt fit what i play every day lol.

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17:14 Jul-15-2020

I've got well over 40 games installed on my system and all are on SSDs. 40, because I can, I guess. I'm sure it's not impossible to fit a reasonable "daily" number of games on a single, smaller SSD.

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19:05 Jul-15-2020

RDR2 alone is like 120+gb, Siege is another 80, WoWs is another 80 or so. Already at 280 between just 3 games lol. I have a 1tb ssd for games, 2tb HDD for games, movies and back up and a 120gb ssd for OS.

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06:59 Jul-14-2020

If RTX 2080ti can't run the game in max settings 60fps ultra then why do we need this game ?

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13:51 Jul-14-2020

I don't know about you, but I do like to revisit demanding games on newer hardware years later. Just because you can't max the game out NOW doesn't mean you should cry about it. You have options. Playing on lower settings is one. Waiting is another.

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05:36 Jul-14-2020

Downgrade incoming.. i honestly hope it doesn't get downgraded but i stopped trusting ubisoft pre release gameplay since first watch dogs game

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05:20 Jul-14-2020

Devs are gonna use "its has Ray tracing hence the high requirements" to hide a poorly optimised game now ...

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02:07 Jul-14-2020

can this game play in gtx 1060 6gb

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13:17 Jul-14-2020

Yeah, at high, but without RayTracing of course

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00:06 Jul-14-2020

almost got heart attack untill i saw "with ray tracing"

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23:31 Jul-13-2020

Thats f*cking hilarious, 1200$ gpu cant handle 1080p 60fps with its selling feature turned on (ray tracing), god we need ampere and big navi asap, im not even mad im amused at this bullcrap :D

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23:56 Jul-13-2020

ampere will do what like 85 fps ? hh this is a game optmization problem not gpu power

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23:59 Jul-13-2020

NO, its a demanding game problem, are we calling RDR2 unoptimized as well?

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00:54 Jul-14-2020

Every time a game is more demanding than games from 5 years ago, people say it's not optimized. Sometimes true, most of the time not true. It will never end.

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01:31 Jul-14-2020

Exactly, unoptimized is a game that tanks .1% lows and has outrageous frametimes making the game lag and stutter. Just because your system can't run a game doesn't mean it's unoptimized. If you can play it on low on a low end system and a high end can play on high then it's optimized.

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22:43 Jul-13-2020

And that is RTX on is for screenshots and RTX off is for playing. :-D Because I doubt it will be that demanding on rasterization. But if they go all in on raytracing, you might need next gen card to pull ultra. Which feels normal. Considering Turing is in between architecture, like Kepler was, and on Kepler you can turn on DX12, it will run, it will just run terribly.

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21:57 Jul-13-2020

The saving grace here could be if the game supports SLI... That way I might get a playable experience with DLSS 2.0 and settings below ultra with raytracing. I mean, the reflections do absolutely look great! But I won't be able to enjoy the game with RTX if I can't have 1440p at -90fps or so, whether native or DLSS.


1080p looks like a horrible mess on 1440p screens, by the way, so it's deffo a no-go.

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20:53 Jul-13-2020

Simply because ray tracing is demanding. Cyberpunk ran only 1080p with raytracing and dlss. So yea 60fps from some kind of upscaled 480p/720p image with dlss. Watch Dogs 2 wasn't badly optimized. Ultra settings pushed crazy amount of geometry, but people are dumb and use all sliders to max without thinking and then screaming "mommy, optimization is so bad bad bad. Ubisoft's trash".

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20:55 Jul-13-2020

This! It was probably the same thing with RDR2 (I haven't tried it yet).

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22:01 Jul-13-2020

RDR2 is a weird one. No SLI support, so that sucked right away. I managed to get a hacky SLI implementation working that rendered 4K at 80+fps, but that also came with some stuttering that I was not willing to live with. Though 4K with TXAA looked better than 1440p with their TXAA... Their TXAA implementation just blurs faces to mush if the resolution isn't high enough - TXAA really likes to have more pixels to play with. Though at 4K I was fine with some FXAA too.
Other than that...the game is just stupid demanding. I couldn't justify some of it.

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19:56 Jul-13-2020

****ing click bait...


Anyway, raytracing never interested me.

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19:23 Jul-13-2020

I don't buy UbiSuck games any more so I don't care. People who own 2080 TIs aren't going to be happy about this news and won't buy the game until they improve the optimization.

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19:09 Jul-13-2020

That screams horrible optimization..

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21:57 Jul-13-2020

Or it's just because of ray-tracing... Like all the other games with ray-tracing...

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22:02 Jul-13-2020

Any 3D artist worth their salt can say "raytracing is 1000x slower than raster" with a straight face, because it's true. Just the fact that we have some form of it running real-time is a damn miracle!

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18:37 Jul-13-2020

Not surprising at all thinking how most of ttheir games are rushed to the point where it's barelly playable and I'm not going to talk about how buggy everything is, like nothing is wroking properly, not even their uplay launcher, it's a disgrace how lazy these developers are, and people say its best company what ajoke

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18:32 Jul-13-2020

Ubisoft games are not half as demanding as much as they are DRM sandwiches with 5 layers of DRM on it. If they just launched with the Uplay DRM, these games would run smooth as silk.

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18:31 Jul-13-2020

I am curious to see how the 3080 Ti will scale in performance with rtx on. 1440p 60 fps hopefullly. My 1080 Ti keeps artifacting while playing games so just waiting for the new stuff to be out.

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18:12 Jul-13-2020

Yeah with the ray tracing on sure, but with it off, I'm sure it will even run at 1440p 60fps with the rest maxed out.


And I have to say the ray tracing in the trailer makes everything look ugly, let alone unrealistic. Nothing is this shiny, puddles rarely reflect like a mirror, they rarely reflect at all, metal that reflects like mirror... it's not how it work in real life... IDK what drugs people are that are in the visuals department at Ubisoft.

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22:08 Jul-13-2020

I'm not gonna say that you don't know what you're talking about, but you obviously don't know what you're talking about... As a photographer and a 3D artist, I see a few things in particular in the demo: it's AT NIGHT! Have you ever been outside after dark when it rained? It's shiny as hell. I have photos from Time Square in NYC where I specifically stood in rain with my DSLR to catch the awesome reflections of the lights and the cabs on the road. The materials are also PBR, which means they adhere to the Fresnel reflection curves - it's also in the vid.

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22:11 Jul-13-2020

I remember my boss tried to argue with me over shiny stuff once when I was doing a particular architectural project. I had to go out, take a few pics of the office after dark, go back and show him how mirror-like his own office became after dark. Relative (perceived) reflectivity heavily depends on the color of what's behind the reflective surface. In the case of glass, water or any varnish/coating - things get so much shinier at night because there's not that much light hitting the base anymore, unlike in daylight.


TLDR: go out some more.

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17:52 Jul-13-2020

I mean watch dogs 2 was really difficult to run at ultra with all setings turned on at 1080p even with a 1080 ti back in the day

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17:56 Jul-13-2020

Exactly, but not because it looked good, but because some random custodian tried to port it to PC while no one at Ubisoft was around.

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