Up For Debate - Is there still a Green vs Red GPU camp?

Written by Chad Norton on Sat, Oct 31, 2020 5:00 PM

Now we don’t visit this debate very often as we don’t want to encourage mindless fanboyism, but we are interested in exploring if the manufacturer loyalty has diminished as we all get wiser and look to buy whatever works for us at the moment, or do we still have loyal hardware camps?

This is all the more relevant now that AMD has stomped the market with their recent Radeon RX 6000 GPU reveal, seemingly taking on Nvidia’s competition and even sometimes exceeding it in traditional rasterization performance - in part thanks to some nifty technology called Rage Mode and Smart Access Memory.

But the main factor here is that Nvidia has struggled to keep up with demand, selling out the RTX 30 series like hotcakes within seconds after launch. This has understandably struck a nerve with consumers who just want to buy the next new graphics card, but will supposedly have to wait until 2021 to be in for a decent chance at getting one.

AMD on the other hand, seemingly has a better grip on stock at the moment, determined for the RX 6000 launch to not be a ‘paper launch’. But the fact is that if AMD has stock whilst Nvidia doesn’t, many of us will choose to go with the red team instead.

In an article last week we posed the question: would you consider switching to AMD if you couldn't get an RTX 30 GPU? To which a resounding 84% of you said yes compared to only 16% who said no. That’s a ratio of 5:1 in favor of switching to AMD, and that was before they announced the Radeon RX 6000 cards.

Then again, with Intel breaking into the graphics card market, maybe we'll see the rise of a blue GPU camp. Who knows?

So what do you think? Is there still a Green and Red GPU camp? Or have we gotten wiser and decide to choose whatever works for us at the moment instead? And will you be switching to an AMD card if you can’t get an RTX 30 GPU? Let's debate!

Is there still a Green vs Red GPU camp?

Which camp are you in?

Are you loyal to any brands in particular? Regardless of graphics cards?

Will you switch to AMD if you can't get an RTX 30 GPU?

Our favourite comments:

Most definitely, you see this debate every time a new card is announced. Honestly I go with whatever is on sale. Though since I've had a good experience so far I'd say I'm more leaning towards team Red.

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16:46 Nov-02-2020

I used to have a GT6200 AGP, then upgraded to a Palit GT 6600 AGP, later i build a new PC with an i5 4430 and used allmost a year with the integrated graphics, then updated to a R7 265 2Gb and now i have a RX 580 4Gb.

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16:48 Nov-02-2020

If i have to say, i'm loyal to Sapphire in AMD GPU's and ASUS in motherboards, but othing else.

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21:51 Nov-01-2020

Loyal here to amd cpu wise and nvidia gpu wise.
As for the 30 series, like always i wait a few months untill prices drop a tiny little bit and supplies are more available.
So for me this means im getting my 3080 around march or may next year :)
And yes, this also means im in the green camp :)

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18:37 Nov-01-2020

best value for buck is my team.... hope they will beat each other so hard that we all get GPUs for as low as possible

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17:29 Nov-01-2020

Personally I will stick with Nvidia GPU's due to their driver support. AMD GPU drivers on windows really needs to get better as their recent drivers break old games using DX9 and 10 API's (not all, but a select few to warrant not using an AMD GPU.)

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23:54 Nov-01-2020

You think they will deliver on their claims of having all hands on deck for driver developing?

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15:22 Nov-01-2020

well im team yellow

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21:48 Nov-01-2020

What is Team Yellow?

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21:52 Nov-01-2020

intel's team blue.. So have to be samsung then or something like that lol :)

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03:16 Nov-04-2020

He probably means mixing red and green... that is how you get yellow :P

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14:48 Nov-01-2020

Personally I will always say, buy product, not brand. So I buy what makes most sense, which usually is what is best bang for the buck. I don't go with loyalty to brands, because it is just bad for competition. And yes, if AMD cards prove themselves worth it, I will gladly buy AMD, I already had AMD few times, or ATI before that and I had nVidia other times. And same is for other stuff too.

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14:51 Nov-01-2020

But whole tribal wars of fans will always be there, fans raising their flags, fighting their silly fights, dying on the hill protecting their flag or attacking flag of other tribe, fighting fight for corporations which couldn't care less about them,... I like to say silly people. And whole AMD vs Intel, AMD vs nVidia, Xbox vs PS, consoles vs PC,... they will always be a thing,due to tribal people.

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12:43 Nov-01-2020

Whenever I've looked at Steam reviews of AAA games at launch that I'm interested in there seems to be a lot of AMD GPU users that are having problems and are having to wait for devs to patch the game. It's obviously not every game but it's been enough to sway me to stick with Nvidia GPUs.

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12:46 Nov-01-2020

I'm definitely more interested in getting a new Ryzen over Intel's current offerings though and considering both would require a new mobo it would be a AMD CPU for me.

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11:04 Nov-01-2020

the buck is my shackles lol

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10:13 Nov-01-2020

I am so excited, and so obsessed with these new amd cpus and gpus that i completely forgot that nvidia and intel exist

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13:44 Nov-01-2020

alll hail amd

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11:45 Nov-02-2020

Is amd really that good for gpu's at this moment though?
Seriously not trying to troll.
I happen to be searching the market for an upgrade, hence the interest, and I gotta say I am loving how the RTX3070 performs for its price.
What would you recommend as a viable amd alternative to it?

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14:25 Nov-02-2020

AMD doesn't have anything better than 5700XT which doesn't even beat 2080 (non Ti) or 1080 Ti, so seeing how 3070 beats 2080, I don't think there's anything AMD can offer right now

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15:27 Nov-02-2020

I ve done some research too, and i think you should stick with rtx 3070. Same performance as rx6800 but a lot cheaper and power eficiant. The reason i love amd is because out of all pc's i had all of them were amd based system, and they never failed me. So i feel commited to them. And price doesnt matter to me beacuse i know i cant afford it. But i love details, such as, better driver interface, amd fluid motion, relive, tuning, framerates statistics...

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22:08 Nov-03-2020

wut


1) according to amd it's above the 2080 ti/3070 performance (enough to justify the price difference which isn't "a lot" like you said)
2) they're both rated for same power (250W) which means the rx6800 is actually more efficient (same power, more performance)
3) 2x the VRAM
4) good luck actually getting a 3070 (or any ampere gpus for that matter)


basically wait for official reviews before making any decisions, especially when we're getting them in 2.5 weeks

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07:58 Nov-01-2020

so the brand doesn't bother me much but realistically if I'm buying a GPU right now its coz I want RTX and it seems team red just isn't keeping up on that side of things. but I am upgrading my CPU/mobo in jan and I will be switching from intel to AMD, that new Ryzen 5 is too juicy

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07:21 Nov-01-2020

Obviously.

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05:24 Nov-01-2020

Cuda is what will keep me using nvidia GPU's.

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02:47 Nov-01-2020

I have “some” loyalty in that it’s an easy tie breaker if it’s a tight decision. Imo that makes sense: you reward whoever gave you a decent product. And of course the reverse is even more true. I will severely punish whoever gives me a crappy product.

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01:42 Nov-01-2020

I have no such brand loyalty. I will choose whichever brand that offers the best overall performance per dollar. I was really rooting for AMD but sadly they dropped the ball again. 33% worse RT performance at the same price as 3080? Nope. Not having that. Maybe next time AMD.

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15:04 Nov-01-2020

1) Wait for actual benchmarks, for all we know it might be less than 33% worse RT, it might be more
2) MSRP is lower than the 3080 and it has more VRAM, uses less power. Not to forget the abysmal availability of the 3080 (and prices that are usually quite above the 700$). Although we still don't know if AMD will have similar availability problems.
3) Is the current state of RT implementation really that impressive that you'd choose a possibly inferior product because of it?

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15:06 Nov-01-2020

4) Even it was, the leak that shows 33% worse performance is a benchmark specifically designed to stress RT performance, actual RT performance difference between Navi 2 and Ampere might be lower in games, but as I said in 1) wait for benchmarks (meaning in-game benchmarks)

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01:36 Nov-01-2020

I used to love intel and nvidia combos, but wit hryzens well i switched to team red , but i think i will be staying with team green for my gpus, too many driver issues on amd gpus, but their cpus are definately way better options

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00:21 Nov-01-2020

The problem with that last question is that it assumes that everyone here was going to buy an Nvidia GPU. Personally, I'm going with AMD because I'm running Linux; Linux works best with open-source drivers and AMD actually does have open-source drivers. And their open-source drivers actually work well, unlike Nouveau.

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00:32 Nov-01-2020

I also noticed that the questions where quite leading (locks you into 2 choices).

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23:17 Oct-31-2020

I don't know why this thing exists. Seems like narrow minded people will buy something no matter what. Buy whatever you think is worth it. AMD has always been much cheaper and slightly better/worse (much better price to performance ratio) here in Croatia so I always had AMD cards. ATI 4870, RX 280X, RX 580X... now looking for a normal GPU that is not enthusiast like those 6000 series.

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22:08 Oct-31-2020

I have the dell gsync monitors so I am pretty much forced to live the nvidia life unless I want to lose the sweet sweet gsync.

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22:12 Oct-31-2020

yeah i also have gsync, so im staying with nvidia, i plan to get the Asus PG259Qn 360hz which is also proper gsync

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20:56 Oct-31-2020

Im camp bang for buck who gets me the most frames for my hard earned money. I dont tend to be "loyal" to any manufacturer. But i do tend to root a bit for the AMD underdog that is 10X smaller than Intel or Nvidia and managing to stay relevant.

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19:42 Oct-31-2020

I do prefer + since years back (together with ASUS for mobos, Samsung for SSDs, Fractal Design for cases, and EVGA for power supplies),
but I am not biased against healthy competition and usually consider handful aspects when picking new gear,
fair to say though, is doing leaps forward and are definitely a strong competitor (maybe even winner) in recent times

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