AMD doubles down on not implementing any kind of crypto mining limiter in their new GPUs

Written by Chad Norton on Wed, Mar 17, 2021 5:30 PM

Since crypto currency mining has surged recently, miners have been quickly trying to grab as many of the new graphics cards as possible, when GPUs were already hard to come by. Nvidia’s solution to combat this was implementing a crypto mining limiter in their latest card, the RTX 3060, but AMD has since doubled down that they will not be implementing any kind of crypto limiter in their new graphics cards.

The short answer is no,” said Nish Neelalojanan, a product manager at AMD during a pre-briefing call regarding the recently released RX 6700 XT. “We will not be blocking any workload, not just mining for that matter.

AMD is apparently more focused on gaming to even care about the crypto mining performance of their graphics cards, putting gaming performance front and center of their focus. The RX 6000 series isn’t the most popular among miners, but considering the major GPU stock crisis at the moment, many are just grabbing what they can get.

That said, there are a couple of things. First of all, RDNA was designed from the ground up for gaming and RDNA 2 doubles up on this. And what I mean by this is, Infinity Cache and a smaller bus width were carefully chosen to hit a very specific gaming hit rate. However, mining specifically enjoys, or scales with, higher bandwidth and bus width so there are going to be limitations from an architectural level for mining itself.

In fact, looking at the actual hash rates of the best graphics cards from both manufacturers, the RTX 3090 achieves around 120MH/s, whereas the RX 6900 XT - which generally performs as well, if not sometimes better than the 3090 in some games - has a has rate of just 64MH/s. Almost half of the 3090’s.

All our optimisation, as always, is going to be gaming first, and we've optimised everything for gaming. Clearly gamers are going to reap a ton of benefit from this, and it's not going to be ideal for mining workload. That all said, in this market, it's always a fun thing to watch.

Of course, as it turns out, AMD’s efforts to even try and create a crypto mining limiter may be futile, as all their Linux drivers are open source. That’s a great thing for Linux users, but unfortunately leaves it all wide open for users online, and judging by how quickly some miners managed to hack the mining limiter on the RTX 3060, it would probably be much quicker for AMD hardware.

So unfortunately it’s not looking good for either company to limit the amount of GPUs bought by miners, and we’ll just have to wait until the bubble bursts at some point before we have any chance of nabbing a new card before any miner.

What do you think? Should AMD implement a crypto mining limiter? Or would it be a worthless effort considering the open source Linux drivers and how quickly Nvidia’s limiter was bypassed? Let us know!

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13:10 Mar-19-2021

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09:41 Mar-18-2021

"In this market, it's always a fun thing to watch.” oh yeah I'm so enjoying this current situation, so much fun to not being able to buy a gpu for 3 times less money as it should be...It's not fun...It's outrageous

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00:02 Mar-18-2021

OK, I am going to put this very bluntly....


"Crypto Limiter is unhackable" AH HA HA HA HA! LMAO! SERIOUSLY?! I don't care what anyone says or does, people WILL find a way to hack it! It's just like security. No security is unhackable. You can make it tougher, sure, but hackers will alwats find a way. ALWAYS!


The same goes for these cryptocurrency mining limiters. I can see the point in security but limiters??? A real big waste of time and money. -_-


The ONLY thing that will stop miners is if government tries to regulate them (or even outright make them illegal) or the crypto market value crashes. The former is far more likely to happen.


So good on AMD for not bothering with a limiter because it would be completely ineffective, especially in the long run!

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23:00 Mar-17-2021

Btw oh how the tables have turned...I bet those new Intel gpu's would look real good now no matter whether they match the performance for 1fps or -1 fps.

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22:54 Mar-17-2021

Lol the problem isn't in the cards per se, but in the distribution. If distribution is capped so that one person can get one card each time a set of cards is on for sale then there would be zero issues. Limit the distribution, not product.

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09:17 Mar-18-2021

1 card sold to 1 account and only one can be delivered to each address. not going to stop the miner buying whole factory loads but it'll help stop scalpers buying 10 and putting them on Ebay by making the awkwardness of getting hold of them outweigh the chance at profit.

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22:08 Mar-17-2021

I think AMD already implemented limiter, by going for gaming architecture. I mean just look at MH/s numbers, it clearly tells you who didn't want to miss out on mining buck and who was like "not again". So in a way, I don't think AMD needs software lock. Lower mining performance is exactly the think they can do and it can't be hacked or cracked, since it is hardware level problem.

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22:11 Mar-17-2021

And that is for good reason, like RTG has huge problem post last mining crisis where used market was overflooded with ex-mining cards and AMD couldn't sell remaining stock. So we got no RX500 successor till quite late RDNA1. And that wasn't just because AMD couldn't make anything, they had too much stock to move. And nVidia simply wanted to go all in, hence compute architectures post Pascal.

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20:10 Mar-17-2021

This is horrible for PC gaming. The simple truth the price of a make believe internet coin control the price of our PC gaming cards new and used now...

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19:44 Mar-17-2021

it wouldnt have worked anyway since AMD's drivers are open source, thus miners couldve just made their own drivers.

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18:44 Mar-17-2021

Pride comes before a fall.

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18:53 Mar-17-2021

I disagree. This topic really doesn't need addressing simply because there's no way to fight this without getting into a cat-and-mouse thing. When people want something bad enough (mining) - nothing will stop them. If someone can build a protection - someone else will be able to break it. That's how the world works. So might as well just avoid taking sides and pissing people off by...doing what they do best - making GPUs. The stock will get better. As Steve from GN said - "It's not food and water" - people will survive a year without a new luxury toy...

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22:57 Mar-17-2021

While I agree, the problem is that if I buy 70 cards and I'm making profit then I'll definitely buy even more next time they're available however I can. And this number only goes up because my profit is rising...so limit distribution then

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00:12 Mar-18-2021

The ONLY thing that will stop cryptocurrency miners is if the market value crashes or government tries to regulate it (or even make it illegal outright). One of them is bound to happen eventually, it's just a matter of time.

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19:08 Mar-17-2021

There's no reason for them to bother because whatever they do it ain't gonna matter. They'll be dedicating resources to stop a currently unstoppable problem, so why waste time and money on it.

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